View Poll Results: Present end date for deal- July 2015- Negotiations fail?

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  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -No

    5 5.62%
  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -Yes

    81 91.01%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- Yes

    5 5.62%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- No

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained –Yes

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained -No

    0 0%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – Yes

    1 1.12%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – No

    57 64.04%
  • If War- Air –Sea only –No assets on the ground

    80 89.89%
  • If War–All capability

    3 3.37%
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Thread: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Given the history between the 2, no.
    Given that Libya gave up nukes- no
    They will want security guarantees.
    I don't know. My impression has been that the US would have been quite accommodating had Iran opened up to the world after having ceased their terrorist activities and weapons programs that are destabilizing the area.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I don't know. My impression has been that the US would have been quite accommodating had Iran opened up to the world after having ceased their terrorist activities and weapons programs that are destabilizing the area.
    Correction Jog. BO peep and his lost sheep have been very accommodating. That's because they never had a clue in the first place!

    Which out of them all BO peep is the worst as the grey matter is limited in what it knows.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Never heard of it before today.
    Thanks
    NP JF. You didn't think the left would be up on much when it comes to where the Big Boys play now.....did you? Other than a few.....its par for the course.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    NP JF. You didn't think the left would be up on much when it comes to where the Big Boys play now.....did you? Other than a few.....its par for the course.
    Hard to stay on top of all security fences- patrols etc. I am sure a lot of planning went into this.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Hard to stay on top of all security fences- patrols etc. I am sure a lot of planning went into this.

    Are Israeli companies going to build the great Saudi Wall? – Jewish Business News
    Well that is true.....must be real difficult for them, even to be slightly in the knowing.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that is true.....must be real difficult for them, even to be slightly in the knowing.
    Play nice now. The difference I see are sanction passed, and placed on hold pending the end state of negotiations in July. I see that as a spit in their face.
    The US did not release a hell of a lot of Iranian assets prior to or just after negotiations began.
    Their economy is bankrupted. While their currency has risen, if talks fail, and newer sanctions imposed, which i would agree with, their economy will fall again.
    Some say let the people rise up.

    Truth be told, when the Shah was facing massive demonstrations, they did not let the Military attack the demonstrators using massive lethal force.

    These Mullahs / Revolutionary Guards would not hesitate to use as much lethal force as needed. As they would fall from power and a new Govt would be in place.
    Then the trials of those in power would begin.

    If no deal by end July that is 100 % verifiable, the P+ 5 should walk. Impose massive sanctions. And wait.
    Do you support an attack on Iran if the talks fail?
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Play nice now. The difference I see are sanction passed, and placed on hold pending the end state of negotiations in July. I see that as a spit in their face.
    The US did not release a hell of a lot of Iranian assets prior to or just after negotiations began.
    Their economy is bankrupted. While their currency has risen, if talks fail, and newer sanctions imposed, which i would agree with, their economy will fall again.
    Some say let the people rise up.

    Truth be told, when the Shah was facing massive demonstrations, they did not let the Military attack the demonstrators using massive lethal force.

    These Mullahs / Revolutionary Guards would not hesitate to use as much lethal force as needed. As they would fall from power and a new Govt would be in place.
    Then the trials of those in power would begin.

    If no deal by end July that is 100 % verifiable, the P+ 5 should walk. Impose massive sanctions. And wait.
    Do you support an attack on Iran if the talks fail?


    Not by us.....but if the Israelis make the jump. Then I am all for we Ride Shotgun.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran.....

    Former Obama adviser Dennis Ross has been outspoken over the last year or so in urging the administration to use leverage against Iran to reach a deal on nuclear weapons that would be acceptable to the West. When the president in his State of the Union address instead threatened once again to veto sanctions, it reminded us that the administration is ignoring all outside advice and living in its own parallel universe in which reconciliation with Iran is viable.

    In an event hosted by the pro-Israel group JINSA this past week, Ross virtually pleaded with the administration to stop chasing a deal. “The question is: what happens over the next few months to get a deal? It’s pretty clear at this point that the Iranians don’t feel much need to conclude an agreement, even though the P5+1 has demonstrated an awful lot of flexibility,” he cautioned. “Therefore, it’s important Iran not believe that we want an agreement more than they do. […] We can’t get a long-term deal unless we raise the price to Iran of refusing it.....snip~

    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran - The Washington Post

    Ross now joins the like of Gates and Panetta. What say ye?


    Once again we have a lame duck president chasing a deal on a limited time table.....

    A timetable Iran likely as their last, best hope.

    I would love to negotiate with this guy. He's an open book, just figure out what is his domestic agenda and proceed from there.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not by us.....but if the Israelis make the jump. Then I am all for we Ride Shotgun.
    Israel cannot do it.
    Saudi's will overlook 1 perhaps to fly thru of their airspace. but not more.
    From what I understand the AF MOP may not destroy the complex.
    Then you have Arak, the heavy water plant.
    Bombing that would release repatriation on a widespread area would it not?

    Or are you all in- Water - power- and other Military facilities?

    And why would the Saudi's not be in as well?

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Israel cannot do it.
    Saudi's will overlook 1 perhaps to fly thru of their airspace. but not more.
    From what I understand the AF MOP may not destroy the complex.
    Then you have Arak, the heavy water plant.
    Bombing that would release repatriation on a widespread area would it not?

    Or are you all in- Water - power- and other Military facilities?

    And why would the Saudi's not be in as well?

    Pentagon Redesigns 'Bunker Buster' Bomb to Combat Iran - WSJ


    The Saud is in. Plus the Israelis would have to put some teams on the ground at Arak. Do you think they could be given cover by their friends? Should it get to that point?


    Israel is working on coordinating plans for a possible military strike with Saudi Arabia, with Riyadh prepared to provide tactical support to Jerusalem, a British newspaper reported early Sunday. The two countries have both united in worry that the West may come to terms with Iran, easing sanctions and allowing the Islamic Republic to continue its nuclear program.

    According to the Sunday Times, Riyadh has agreed to let Israel use its airspace in a military strike on Iran and cooperate over the use of rescue helicopters, tanker planes and drones.

    Read more: Israel said to be working with Saudi Arabia on Iran strike plan | The Times of Israel Israel said to be working with Saudi Arabia on Iran strike plan | The Times of Israel
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