View Poll Results: Present end date for deal- July 2015- Negotiations fail?

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  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -No

    5 5.62%
  • New sanctions should be passed during negotiations -Yes

    81 91.01%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- Yes

    5 5.62%
  • Iran with Nukes a threat- No

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained –Yes

    55 61.80%
  • Iran with Nukes can be contained -No

    0 0%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – Yes

    1 1.12%
  • Negotiations fail- There will be War – No

    57 64.04%
  • If War- Air –Sea only –No assets on the ground

    80 89.89%
  • If War–All capability

    3 3.37%
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Thread: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Funny how ISIS is tearing the middle east asunder yet the saudi's and their allies are more worried about a country that belongs to the opposing religious sect.

    ISIS is the bigger threat here.


    The Saud isn't worried about ISIS.....they got a fence.



    The Saud is only concerned about Syria being given to the Sunni to run and govern.....and of course subjugation of All Shia.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Saud isn't worried about ISIS.....they got a fence.



    The Saud is only concerned about Syria being given to the Sunni to run and govern.....and of course subjugation of All Shia.
    And what do we have to gain by indulging the saudi's religious vendetta against the Shia?
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what do we have to gain by indulging the saudi's religious vendetta against the Shia?
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran.....

    Former Obama adviser Dennis Ross has been outspoken over the last year or so in urging the administration to use leverage against Iran to reach a deal on nuclear weapons that would be acceptable to the West. When the president in his State of the Union address instead threatened once again to veto sanctions, it reminded us that the administration is ignoring all outside advice and living in its own parallel universe in which reconciliation with Iran is viable.

    In an event hosted by the pro-Israel group JINSA this past week, Ross virtually pleaded with the administration to stop chasing a deal. “The question is: what happens over the next few months to get a deal? It’s pretty clear at this point that the Iranians don’t feel much need to conclude an agreement, even though the P5+1 has demonstrated an awful lot of flexibility,” he cautioned. “Therefore, it’s important Iran not believe that we want an agreement more than they do. […] We can’t get a long-term deal unless we raise the price to Iran of refusing it.....snip~

    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran - The Washington Post

    Ross now joins the like of Gates and Panetta. What say ye?

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran.....

    Former Obama adviser Dennis Ross has been outspoken over the last year or so in urging the administration to use leverage against Iran to reach a deal on nuclear weapons that would be acceptable to the West. When the president in his State of the Union address instead threatened once again to veto sanctions, it reminded us that the administration is ignoring all outside advice and living in its own parallel universe in which reconciliation with Iran is viable.

    In an event hosted by the pro-Israel group JINSA this past week, Ross virtually pleaded with the administration to stop chasing a deal. “The question is: what happens over the next few months to get a deal? It’s pretty clear at this point that the Iranians don’t feel much need to conclude an agreement, even though the P5+1 has demonstrated an awful lot of flexibility,” he cautioned. “Therefore, it’s important Iran not believe that we want an agreement more than they do. […] We can’t get a long-term deal unless we raise the price to Iran of refusing it.....snip~

    Former adviser warns Obama on Iran - The Washington Post

    Ross now joins the like of Gates and Panetta. What say ye?
    I think it's likely that Ross will join the others that are being ignored by Obama, since they disagree with him. Just my opinion...

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Saud isn't worried about ISIS.....they got a fence.



    The Saud is only concerned about Syria being given to the Sunni to run and govern.....and of course subjugation of All Shia.
    Never heard of it before today.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    If they achieve Nuke capability, other ME countries will/would also acquire the bomb. Saudi’s would buy it from Pakistan. And the world can do what?
    The world won't do anything about that because the Saudis are an Ally. A blind eye will be turned just like it is to their well documented disgusting Human Rights abuses.

    My Country does not possess nuclear weapons. I remain amazed that more people aren't concerned about Pakistan and their nuclear capability. Approx 6 years ago a U.S. Congressional investigation predicted a nuclear or biological attack by the end of 2013, with a strong likelihood that it would originate in Pakistan. Fortunately, to date that has not eventuated.

    Just over 12 months ago, Gen. Kidwai, (the man in charge of the entity responsible for Pakistans arsenal), resigned after 14 years. They have never joined the NPT and their current stockpile of nuclear weapons is growing and related facilities has to be considered at risk given the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan and the country’s problematic security system. Added to that you have internal instability and differing political views.

    All you hear is crickets. It's only all about Iran.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    The world won't do anything about that because the Saudis are an Ally. A blind eye will be turned just like it is to their well documented disgusting Human Rights abuses.

    My Country does not possess nuclear weapons. I remain amazed that more people aren't concerned about Pakistan and their nuclear capability. Approx 6 years ago a U.S. Congressional investigation predicted a nuclear or biological attack by the end of 2013, with a strong likelihood that it would originate in Pakistan. Fortunately, to date that has not eventuated.

    Just over 12 months ago, Gen. Kidwai, (the man in charge of the entity responsible for Pakistans arsenal), resigned after 14 years. They have never joined the NPT and their current stockpile of nuclear weapons is growing and related facilities has to be considered at risk given the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan and the country’s problematic security system. Added to that you have internal instability and differing political views.

    All you hear is crickets. It's only all about Iran.
    Correct- Pakistan is a mess.
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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    All you hear is crickets. It's only all about Iran.
    Exactly. Saudi Arabia has had its hands and money in nuclear projects for decades and it would not be surprising if they have already purchased nuclear weapons from Pakistan. Bush tried the same approach with the UAE that Clinton did with North Korea so its only a matter of time before they have the bomb as well. People like to focus on Iran because we don't like them very much but there is a discreet nuclear arms race in the Middle East and Iran is only one of many. I do not view an Iranian bomb as a threat. This nuclear arms race will do more to stabilize the region than anything else IMO.

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    Re: P5 + 1- Iran Nuclear negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    The world won't do anything about that because the Saudis are an Ally. A blind eye will be turned just like it is to their well documented disgusting Human Rights abuses.

    My Country does not possess nuclear weapons. I remain amazed that more people aren't concerned about Pakistan and their nuclear capability. Approx 6 years ago a U.S. Congressional investigation predicted a nuclear or biological attack by the end of 2013, with a strong likelihood that it would originate in Pakistan. Fortunately, to date that has not eventuated.

    Just over 12 months ago, Gen. Kidwai, (the man in charge of the entity responsible for Pakistans arsenal), resigned after 14 years. They have never joined the NPT and their current stockpile of nuclear weapons is growing and related facilities has to be considered at risk given the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan and the country’s problematic security system. Added to that you have internal instability and differing political views.

    All you hear is crickets. It's only all about Iran.

    There is a big difference between a nation which has already acquired nukes. Of course we are concerned about North Korea and Pakistan having them. Once they do, little you can do about it. You are correct that Pakistan and I would say North Korea having them is a big problem for the world. Not sure that means we want another rouge nation having that capability, so not sure the logic in your argument.

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