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Thread: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Hahaha! People of little character. Gotta love conservatives that tend to take credit for abstract moral questions. 97% of conservatives said that infidelity is very immoral. I'm sure that only 3% of conservatives cheat on their spouse....Conservatives also tend to not have pre-marital sex and never get abortions.
    I believe the question related to paying back loans, and whether someone has a moral obligation to do so. I guess admitting you are personally into infidelity, pre-marital sex, and abortions has some relevance to you, but I don't see it's relevance to the topic.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I dipped into my pocket and paid off mine instead of walking away. It's one thing if you CAN'T make the payments on a deal you agreed to. It's another completely if you chose not to because you would rather stick the bank with your bad investment than make good on your own agreement. If you don't see anything wrong with welshing on a loan just because you make out better by doing that, then it's not my moral superiority that is in play, but your moral inferority because that belief system is just plain immoral. Here's to me and f*** you. I better NEVER catch you arguing that businesses are immoral and are just out to screw people because that would make you nothing less than a complete hypocrite given that you think screwing people in business is all fine and good as long as you're the one doing the screwing.
    Businesses are immoral. The business world acts in a manner where transactions are arms length and each party acts in their own self interest. That's been my whole argument.....I'm not sure how stating the obvious makes me a hypocrite....
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Conservatives may not live up to their values and when they don't, you can scream "hypocrite". But I think it's better to be in the group where some don't live up to the values they promote than to be in the group that has no values.
    I personally prefer the group that is more realistic about their actions. I'd rather hang around a self declared cheat than someone that claims to be pious and will cheat you blind.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I believe the question related to paying back loans, and whether someone has a moral obligation to do so. I guess admitting you are personally into infidelity, pre-marital sex, and abortions has some relevance to you, but I don't see it's relevance to the topic.
    I could of swore you had mentioned character in your response...let me check...yup...you did. You seem to judge character by what people say they will do. I generally judge people based on their actions.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I could of swore you had mentioned character in your response...let me check...yup...you did. You seem to judge character by what people say they will do. I generally judge people based on their actions.
    LOL

    I see. So how do you judge a person before you've had a chance to know their actions?

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    I see. So how do you judge a person before you've had a chance to know their actions?
    By assuming they will operate in their own self interest. How do you judge someone if you don't know their actions? You take them at their word?
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    For the same reason I'm stuck on a night and day dichotomy. Liberals are the philosophical opposites of conservatives and this issue of character and morals is just as evident as night and day. I'm stuck on the liberal/conservative dichotomy because it's staring us all in the face to the point where denying is lying.
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    I don't agree and will just leave it at that. To each, their own.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    By assuming they will operate in their own self interest. How do you judge someone if you don't know their actions? You take them at their word?
    It depends on what I'm judging them on. Since the topic is loans, after establishing their previous actions were in keeping with my expectations, I would have them sign a contract which establishes their agreement to their future actions. I don't assume their own self interest includes walking away from their obligations.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It depends on what I'm judging them on. Since the topic is loans, after establishing their previous actions were in keeping with my expectations, I would have them sign a contract which establishes their agreement to their future actions. I don't assume their own self interest includes walking away from their obligations.
    You just asked how you judge someone without knowing their actions.

    So from your response you also judge people by their actions not what they tell people what they believe morality wise?
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    You just asked how you judge someone without knowing their actions.

    So from your response you also judge people by their actions not what they tell people what they believe morality wise?
    I have no idea where you're trying to twist your thinking and what I posted.

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