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  • If you borrow money, you are morally obligated to repay it.

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Thread: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes. In addition to the legal one. Even if it takes a lifetime to do so, it must be paid back. One's character is the cornerstone of their being.
    Seems lots of liberals disagree with that. It is very telling.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Seems lots of liberals disagree with that. It is very telling.
    Hard to argue otherwise. All the qualifiers and deflections show it's a concept they need to avoid. It's like student loans. Give me money to better myself, but if I don't like the better me, I don't want to pay it back. With such a mindset, failure will always be an option.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Morality is YOU. Not some inanimate object. Not some tool. Not somebody else. Morality is YOU.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Hard to argue otherwise. All the qualifiers and deflections show it's a concept they need to avoid. It's like student loans. Give me money to better myself, but if I don't like the better me, I don't want to pay it back. With such a mindset, failure will always be an option.
    And, as usual, there seems to be no dissent from liberals who disagree with the utter contempt for morality, decency and honesty that we're seeing from other liberals, so it seems safe to conclude that there isn't any meaningful disagreement in their ranks on this. And we wonder why this country is so screwed up.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    And, as usual, there seems to be no dissent from liberals who disagree with the utter contempt for morality, decency and honesty that we're seeing from other liberals, so it seems safe to conclude that there isn't any meaningful disagreement in their ranks on this. And we wonder why this country is so screwed up.
    If I landed here from another planet, and this thread was the my first and only interaction with humans, that would be my conclusion.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If I landed here from another planet, and this thread was the my first and only interaction with humans, that would be my conclusion.
    The fact that I'm from this planet and know a whole bunch of liberals personally doesn't contradict that conclusion, either.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Option 3: Depends on who you borrowed the money from.

    If you borrowed it from an individual, then yes, you are morally obligated to repay on their terms, or as soon as possible afterwards if you can't make the payment(s).

    If it's a bank, there is no "moral" issue about a strategic default. The reason is simple: the government bails out the banks. They don't bail out individuals.
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That is complete crap and you know it. You just argued that since there are laws to punish you if you get caught mugging little old ladies, it isn't immoral to do it.
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    I'm sorry you disagree with me but calling my synopsis "crap" because of it, is rather disingenuous. Furthermore, the laws governing wealth and material transactions are "commercial law" as opposed to your mugging example which is "civil law". I'm not sure you understand the difference and how morality is NOT a part of commerce.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The fact that I'm from this planet and know a whole bunch of liberals personally doesn't contradict that conclusion, either.
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    You seem to be stuck on this liberal/conservative dichotomy...why?

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    Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?[W:461]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    You seem to be stuck on this liberal/conservative dichotomy...why?
    For the same reason I'm stuck on a night and day dichotomy. Liberals are the philosophical opposites of conservatives and this issue of character and morals is just as evident as night and day. I'm stuck on the liberal/conservative dichotomy because it's staring us all in the face to the point where denying is lying.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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