They lose far less than a penny and it averages out to nothing from individual actions but only matters in aggregate and all I can do is control my own actions as they create harm
But thank you for giving a real scenario to consider unlike Ockham's farse of an argument.
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The risk is passed on to others with institutions. That is their basic business model.
Not really meant only for you, you just framed your response in an open manner.
I have no accidents. I'm still really healthy and never go to the doctor (knock wood, I shouldnt have written that).
So IMO, not remotely minimized. And certainly not a moral argument. (Well it might be from your response...it's ok as long as it's just 'a little.')
I as a person present no harm to you as a person regarding this interaction
I think the discussion has taken some ugly turns and went a lil too personal...
take some time..... chill out.... it's just a conversation.
I wonder though... if a person doesn't see paying their loans as a moral obligation, but they still pay their loans on some basis other than morality, can we really declare them to be immoral?... they are acting in accordance to our morality, so determining them to be immoral just doesn't make much sense.
but that brings another question to my mind... why the hell are the generally political persuasions abandoning their traditional arguments?.... libertarians denouncing self-interest and embracing morality.. liberals/progressives embracing self-interest while casting away morality.
cats sleeping with dogs, dogs sleeping with cats... it's a madhouse round here
in any event.. pay your bills... it's the right thing to do.
As for your second question. All ideologies are emotion based at their core and all the logic and rationality is self justification. This is the exact same reason conservatives are using the exact same arguments about being culturally overbearing that liberals used in the 80s. These arguments are simply a tool for the deeper emotional justification. The human mind isn't a rational machine.
The real truth is that this forum is just biological interplay that is truly defined by our predisposed social instincts since birth.
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