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  • If you borrow money, you are morally obligated to repay it.

    110 34.48%
  • I feel no moral obligation to repay loans I've taken out

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If you able to **** over a corporation for money you'll have no problem ****ing over others for money - amorality can always be justified somehow, especially if there's an ideology behind it like the one that justifies lies and deceit "for the greater good".
    Abiding by the terms of a mortgage - and mortgages specify what happens in cases of non-payment - is not "****ing over a corporation"
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Not repaying a debt is also morally wrong: you needed the money and said loaner felt morally obligated to help you out. You took the money on his / her terms. You are now beholden to those terms whether you believe in morality or not. Morality will continue in the world with or without you.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    The reason contracts are needed at all is because of the views presented in this thread.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Of course no one should have to repay a loan. I say just grab the loot, and the fool of a lender be damned.

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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As I've said before, I speak for myself only. It's immaterial to me if the other party I'm dealing with is immoral. What's material is that I remain moral and a man with integrity. You may choose to wallow in the gutter with the scum and feel whatever some lowlife does is plenty good for you - that's your prerogative. As a person of integrity, a person of morals, and a person who values my own word, I would no longer be the person I am, the person I choose to be, if I had the cavalier attitude towards honour that you espouse.
    There is nothing immoral about taking a course of action that the lender agreed to when it entered into the contract but there is something profoundly unwise and morally depraved in thinking there's something wrong with making a choice that even the lender agreed you are free to make.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Now, just to be clear, I said small (c) conservative, not Republican, and in the same vein, to be technical, participating in the Republican primary - had he done so - would have been "participating in the democratic primaries", that being small (d) democratic. And no, Trump, being the opportunist that he is, would not have tried to participate in the Democrat primary, with Obama as President - he chose the Republican one because he thought he could be the best of a bad lot.
    then we both recognize that this quasi-conservative republican used the bankruptcy laws to avoid corporate financial obligations
    the very thing the OP is suggesting is not the case
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Abiding by the terms of a mortgage - and mortgages specify what happens in cases of non-payment - is not "****ing over a corporation"
    Nice strawman...

    You did say this right?
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    If you want to feel morally obligated to a non-corporeal and souless entity, you are free to do so.
    Which prompted my response that if you'll **** over a corporation for money as in repayment of a loan, you'll **** over anyone and justify it ... it's not difficult to understand.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    interesting.

    I generally base my moral obligations on my own personal values... not the values of those whom I deal with <shrug>
    Nonsense.

    I'm sure you base some moral decisions on the person and the situation being dealt with.

    Take killing people - I'm sure you think there are certain situations and certain people where it's moral to kill them and other situations and people where it's not OK.

    Your pretense of moral superiority is laughable because your position is so far removed from morality that you have to argue that morality is completely independent of reality.
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Nice strawman...

    You did say this right?


    Which prompted my response that if you'll **** over a corporation for money as in repayment of a loan, you'll **** over anyone and justify it ... it's not difficult to understand.
    And I'll repeat "Abiding by the terms of a mortgage - and mortgages specify what happens in cases of non-payment - is not "****ing over a corporation"
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    Re: Are you morally obligated to repay a loan that you take?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The question wasn't just restricted to lending by banks. It was a general statement. What if you borrow 10 grand from your brother in law?
    lets turn it around, if you lend your brother in law 10K and he never speaks to you again was it worth the investment?
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