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No, you haven't. Good luck, though.
:lamo Great talk.
No, you haven't. Good luck, though.
I think it's the support of the public and their willingness to persevere that's most important... at least as far as the US is concerned.
1.)The whole list is flawed because of your opinion?
2.)You know when Saigon fell correct? In 1975. You know when the Viet Cong dissolved? In 1976. You know why? The war was over and the country was united under another government. They won and became part of a united Vietnam.
he's right, overall... the VC, as a fighting force, were pretty much destroyed during Tet...
they continued to exist for a number years, but not as a fighting force.....they were primarily relegated to communist apparatus duties in the rural regions.
So discussing with a friend of mine, the argument came up:
According to him:
- The single most important factor in deciding the outcome of a war is understanding the people and culture of the opponent.
According to me:
- The single most important factor in deciding the outcome of a war is wealth to fund it.
So, there will be occasions in history were one or the other mattered the most, but overall I still think money makes the final decision.
My examples were Rome, England, the US. His focused on Indian kings (asia) and the soviet union.
Tell me your thoughts and examples.
The will to win; right?
Thats simply not true. 2 years later they mounted major successfull offenses, and even retook and reopened the Ho Chi Minh trail.
Thats simply not true. 2 years later they mounted major successfull offenses, and even retook and reopened the Ho Chi Minh trail.
Let's see a link telling about those major offensives
:lol:... the author of your article doesn't know the difference between the NVA and the VC... period.
nobody surrendered to the VC ... the VC from 68 to 75 were , at best, an adjunct to the NVA/PAVN...as a fighting force, they were destroyed in 68' ( they continued to exist, just not as an effective fighting force.)
Saigon fell to the NVA (PAVN)... specifically, elements of the 324th, 325th, 304th, and 711th divisions.... not the VC
"surrendered to the Vietcong"... hilarious :lamo
April 30, 1975 - At 8:35 a.m., the last Americans, ten Marines from the embassy, depart Saigon, concluding the United States presence in Vietnam. North Vietnamese troops pour into Saigon and encounter little resistance. By 11 a.m., the red and blue Viet Cong flag flies from the presidential palace. President Minh broadcasts a message of unconditional surrender. The war is over.
The only thing your link proves, is that--like I said--it was 4 years after The Tet Offensive before the commies launched their next offensive.
There's nothing there about, "major Viet Cong offensives", in 1970.
:naughty lets not be dishonest here.
"The Viet Cong was destroyed in 1968"
-That statement you made is clearly wrong. Shows that the Viet Cong was very much a force around after 1968.
-But now lets look into the offensives.
"Viet Cong attack 110 targets throughout South Vietnam including Saigon."
" Viet Cong begin a new offensive attacking 150 targets throughout South Vietnam."
What percentage of the population do those numbers represent? How much damage did Germany do to Russia's manpower pool versus the damage that did to Germany's manpower pool?
Hellstorm: The Rape and Mass Murder of German Women after WWII | Veterans Today
Just in case you didn't know Veterans Today is a piece of crap anti-Jew, pro Russian, conspiracy theory site.
I probably wouldn't use it to much in the future.
That wasn't the VC. Those infiltrators were members of the NVA, conducting operations much like what American SF units would do.
Now, show us those major VC offensives.
A pro-Russian site does a piece on Russians raping millions of German women?
Something doesn't quite add up there. Ya think?
It doesn't take away from the fact that those events actually happened.
:lamo They werent? Please show me any evidence that they were not actually VC.. Show me evidence other than your claims... Do you have anything to back up the claims you are making?
Not saying it does but VT is a total piece of crap site.
I already have, but you refuse to learn anything, because you already know it all. A failing common among Liberals.
Hell, you still believe The Revolutionary War was a guerilla war.
No you havnet. All you have done is ask questions, and make claims. But as always you just blame everything on "liberals"....