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    Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?


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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Well, yes. The problem is that, like most groups of politicians, conservative politicians are more than happy to spend the money they are entrusted with to try & expand, or at the very least maintain, their and their political party's influence. This usually involves passing special interest legislation in exchange for the support of a corporation, interest group, or other powerful entity of a similar nature.
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
    "conservative" in a political sense has little to do with actual budgeting.

    That is like the word Nazis who claim the U.S. has a "defense dept." and thus we should never attack any other nation.

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
    Oh boy, that question can take days to answer.

    For one thing, it depends on which meaning of 'conservative' you want: politically, socially, economically, psychologically...and then there's different meanings for different times. For instance, at the beginning of the 20th century, 'socially conservative' could mean that you were against civil rights for blacks and women's suffrage, whereas one could be against civil rights for blacks but FOR women's suffrage...which meant in the context of the day that you were some kind of bleeding-heart liberal hiding under your wife's skirts.

    BUT politically speaking, there were conservatives and liberals in both major parties for almost all of America's history...but things began to change in the wake of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Nixon's "Southern Strategy" (google it) was used to attract the "negrophobes" in the South who were angry with the Democrats for passing the CRA (which could not have passed in the first place if it had not been for liberals in the GOP, strangely enough)...and so the South went from being a Democratic stronghold to the GOP base that it is today. It was that politically-seismic shift that slowly made liberals unwelcome in the GOP...and as a reaction, conservatives - "Blue-Dog Democrats" - have been slowly pushed out of the Democratic party...

    ...so now for the first time in American history, our two major parties are split not just by party, but also by (to some extent) personality.

    But there's more to it than that, actually. There's a growing body of evidence that there is at least some biological basis as to whether one is liberal or conservative. I wrote about it in 2011, where I linked to research that found that the bigger a person's amygdala (the fear-sensing fight-or-flight section of the brain) is, the more likely one is to be conservative. That, and another study showed that the more easily one felt the emotion of disgust, the more likely one is to be conservative.

    And what really sucks is that in my experience with presenting all this is that conservatives hate to hear about it...I've yet to see an avowed conservative look at any of it with anything other than disdain...or disgust.
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
    They are generally called pimps on the street, selling a policy that entails buying us with our own money, and we thank them for that.
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Oh boy, that question can take days to answer.

    For one thing, it depends on which meaning of 'conservative' you want: politically, socially, economically, psychologically...and then there's different meanings for different times. For instance, at the beginning of the 20th century, 'socially conservative' could mean that you were against civil rights for blacks and women's suffrage, whereas one could be against civil rights for blacks but FOR women's suffrage...which meant in the context of the day that you were some kind of bleeding-heart liberal hiding under your wife's skirts.

    BUT politically speaking, there were conservatives and liberals in both major parties for almost all of America's history...but things began to change in the wake of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Nixon's "Southern Strategy" (google it) was used to attract the "negrophobes" in the South who were angry with the Democrats for passing the CRA (which could not have passed in the first place if it had not been for liberals in the GOP, strangely enough)...and so the South went from being a Democratic stronghold to the GOP base that it is today. It was that politically-seismic shift that slowly made liberals unwelcome in the GOP...and as a reaction, conservatives - "Blue-Dog Democrats" - have been slowly pushed out of the Democratic party...

    ...so now for the first time in American history, our two major parties are split not just by party, but also by (to some extent) personality.

    But there's more to it than that, actually. There's a growing body of evidence that there is at least some biological basis as to whether one is liberal or conservative. I wrote about it in 2011, where I linked to research that found that the bigger a person's amygdala (the fear-sensing fight-or-flight section of the brain) is, the more likely one is to be conservative. That, and another study showed that the more easily one felt the emotion of disgust, the more likely one is to be conservative.

    And what really sucks is that in my experience with presenting all this is that conservatives hate to hear about it...I've yet to see an avowed conservative look at any of it with anything other than disdain...or disgust.
    you'll never come up with a good answer when the premise relies entirely on "liberal" and "conservative" being mutually exclusive.

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
    the act of spending money like crazy is quite common in modern liberalism (yes, conservatives are still liberals , contrary to popular partisan rhetoric)...

    the particulars surrounding the spending will change according to party affiliation ( and to an extent, ideology), but not the simplified spending issue.


    but anyways, don't make the mistake of getting too wrapped up in political labels and what they are "supposed" to mean...and what their adherents are "supposed" to behave like... it's rarely, if ever, accurate.

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    The people who claim to be conservative,when they're in power they spend the people money like crazy . Just my opinion,what's your opinion?
    Just because the idiots in the Republican party say they are conservative doesn't mean that they are. They are mostly neo-cons, which are closer to liberals than they are to conservatives.
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    This thread must have been inspired by the great work of US Conservative.


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