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Thread: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Most "conservatives" that I know are anything but Conservative. Most not only want big government they want HUGE government dictating what people can and cannot do in their personal lives. Many claim to be "fiscally conservative" but usually those are only fiscally conservative when it comes to government spending money that helps children and people living in poverty, they have no problem with the government writing huge checks to pay for inflated military budgets. They love handing out billions of dollars to oil companies and other huge corporations. They generally want tax cuts for the wealthy...but claim tax cuts for the middle/working class are wealth redistribution. So in answer to the OP question, I would have to say emphatically no.
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Both conservatives and liberals spend money when it suits their ideology. Conservatives only ask 'who pays for it?' when it helps the little people.

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Most "conservatives" that I know are anything but Conservative. Most not only want big government they want HUGE government dictating what people can and cannot do in their personal lives. Many claim to be "fiscally conservative" but usually those are only fiscally conservative when it comes to government spending money that helps children and people living in poverty, they have no problem with the government writing huge checks to pay for inflated military budgets. They love handing out billions of dollars to oil companies and other huge corporations. They generally want tax cuts for the wealthy...but claim tax cuts for the middle/working class are wealth redistribution. So in answer to the OP question, I would have to say emphatically no.
    yeah.. and most of the liberal i know are hippies who smoke weed, have abortions every couple if months, and have no problems with the govt taking over all industries while banning guns while they run around blaming white people and rich people even when they get a boo-boo on their knee.


    how odd that the people we know exactly match the caricatures of what they are supposed to be , as described by their political opponents.

    totally odd how that happens eh...

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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you'll never come up with a good answer when the premise relies entirely on "liberal" and "conservative" being mutually exclusive.
    Did you happen to see the point where I said that 'conservative' and 'liberal' had different meanings at different times? To wit:

    "For one thing, it depends on which meaning of 'conservative' you want: politically, socially, economically, psychologically...and then there's different meanings for different times. For instance, at the beginning of the 20th century, 'socially conservative' could mean that you were against civil rights for blacks and women's suffrage, whereas one could be against civil rights for blacks but FOR women's suffrage...which meant in the context of the day that you were some kind of bleeding-heart liberal hiding under your wife's skirts."
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    Re: Are Conservatives really conservative ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Did you happen to see the point where I said that 'conservative' and 'liberal' had different meanings at different times? To wit:

    "For one thing, it depends on which meaning of 'conservative' you want: politically, socially, economically, psychologically...and then there's different meanings for different times. For instance, at the beginning of the 20th century, 'socially conservative' could mean that you were against civil rights for blacks and women's suffrage, whereas one could be against civil rights for blacks but FOR women's suffrage...which meant in the context of the day that you were some kind of bleeding-heart liberal hiding under your wife's skirts."
    none of this has anything to do with what I said.

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