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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by foadi View Post
    Of course they do.
    So they have the right to vote???
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    I voted 'yes', because I believe that the rights that we have as American citizens should be the rights that everyone should have, all over the world.
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How do you determine they are indeed illegal? Court, Right?
    The same way you determine they are illegal right now. How do we determine if they are illegal immigrants right now.....?

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    The same way you determine they are illegal right now. How do we determine if they are illegal immigrants right now.....?
    I don't have proof for any of this, but you have to wonder.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    From a legal standpoint illegal immigrants and immigrants have many but not all the rights of citizens - voting being an obvious one that they don't have. Given that I voted "no".

    It's well established via a number of SC rulings that immigrants, legal and otherwise, do have many of the rights that citizens have.
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    So they have the right to vote???
    Many US citizens aren't allowed to vote.
    I don't have proof for any of this, but you have to wonder.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    They can't vote nor run for office .
    But the constitution says that all men are created equal, not just American men.
    All other rights fully apply .
    Last edited by d head; 01-22-15 at 05:26 PM.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    I'm confused. Of course they don't. Is this a question of whether they should? or whether they do? What is with the quotes? Are you referring to someone who has filed out the proper paperwork to live in the United States or someone who just came here while bypassing all the proper channels?

    Your quotes implies that the person is referred to as illegal but really isn't illegal. Either way. I am over the age of 35. I am eligible to run for president in 2016. The immigrant would not have that same right. I am also eligible for Social Security benefits if I become permanently disabled. An immigrant who does not possess a valid Social Security number does not have that same right. If my income is too low then I have access to food stamps, Earned Income Credit and Child Tax Credit. A person without a valid Social Security is ineligible for all government benefits in the form of transfer payments. I am not sure about voting but I would imagine that would vary from state to state. Overall a citizen has more privileges than an immigrant and has even more privileges than an immigrant who does not have proper documentation.

    Can you explain why you put the word illegal in quotation marks? Otherwise I have to rely on my own assumptions of your motivation behind it.

    As far as getting a driver's license in North Carolina goes, anybody can get a driver's license in North Carolina even if they are unable to prove their legal status as an United States resident. If this thread was about driving in North Carolina then I would have voted, "yes". Since you didn't specify the rights then I have to go with, "no". You could probably have a more productive conversation about this topic if you narrowed it down a lot. This thread allows too much room for the imagination(s) of posters to go all over the place. This thread is bound to produce partisan nonsensery. I challenge you to make a new and better poll where we can discuss the issues that concern you the most. This thread is worthless except to the extent that people love venting their frustrations.
    Last edited by vasuderatorrent; 01-22-15 at 05:29 PM.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Actually, I'm pretty sure that someone here illegally is prohibited from owning property. While you don't have to be a US citizen to own property you DO generally need to maintain some form of legal status to do so. Among other things, no bank in their right mind would give you a loan to purchase property when they have no possibility of legal recourse with you or the property.
    IIRC, there are shysters in this country that allow illegals to buy homes and such with the stipulation the article goes back to the seller if they somehow renege on the contract. Of course it's all highly illegal.
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

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