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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No they don't

    At least they don't have second amendment rights. They can't legally recieve a passport, or vote in elections
    well most of them then.
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by foadi View Post
    So inalienable rights. The answer should be obvious then. Can't legislate those away.
    List a right in the BOR that isn't modified by law. So much for inalienable.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No they don't

    At least they don't have second amendment rights. They can't legally recieve a passport, or vote in elections
    Even many citizens can't receive US passports. Felons and people who don't pay child support. Congress is trying to expand this to people who are delinquent on taxes. This is downright criminal, if you ask me.
    I don't have proof for any of this, but you have to wonder.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    There have the same right to be arrested for breaking the law as any citizen.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    First off, why the quotations around illegal?

    For the purposes of this question, the hypothetical scenario implies that the emigrant is illegal, if I was asking does 2+2 equal four would you put quotation marks around the four? Someone is legally in the country or they're not it's that simple.

    I would ask this, if an illegal immigrant has the same rights as a legal resident, should they be able to walk into a gun shop, fill out the 4473 truthfully stating they're unlawful alien on the form and receive their firearm?

    Once an illegal immigrant can do that then we'll say I have the same rights as everyone else
    How about a passport, set an illegal immigrant be eligible to receive a United States passport?
    I put quotes around illegal for indentification purposes only, people can do illegal things but they cannot be illegal themselves.


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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by foadi View Post
    A lot of crappy countries don't allow foreigners to own property, but all the countries that top the Heritage Foundations Economic Freedom Index do.
    How much property would it take to pay China and Japan back the trillions they have lent us? They don't want our dollars.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    List a right in the BOR that isn't modified by law. So much for inalienable.
    Highly unfortunate the direction the US is headed in.
    I don't have proof for any of this, but you have to wonder.

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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by foadi View Post
    yes


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    And you know what giving up passports to illegal immigrants would do? Other countries would refuse to except our passports and demand visas. The purpose of a passport is to identify the holder by nationality. If we hand out passports to people who are not nationals of the United States, other countries will stop trusting our passports
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    How much property would it take to pay China and Japan back the trillions they have lent us? They don't want our dollars.
    Who would try to collect our debt? The repo man?
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    Re: Do "illegal" aliens have the same rights as citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I put quotes around illegal for indentification purposes only, people can do illegal things but they cannot be illegal themselves.
    Illegal alien, is the proper term describing people who are aliens illegally in a country. If they were to receive a Visa or go home they would cease being illegal, so the person themselves is not illegal their status in the country is what's illegal.

    And when did we start assigning the status of nobility to illegal aliens? How many people are we supposed to allow in the United States? 10 million? 30 million? 1 billion? 5 billion? When we dry all our rivers and develop our national parks to house them? At some point we got to realize the carrying capacity is been reached. You know longer have an empty continent to fill
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