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Thread: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

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    Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    I had tried to ask this question in a earlier thread but I did not make my implications clear enough.

    This is the earlier thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...americans.html

    My question is this: do the actions of terrorist orginazation like ISIS and al Qaeda represent the entire Islamic faith, or are we able to distinguish between the militant fanatics and the uninvolved?
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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    The idea that Muslims are comprised of one massive bloc of 1.6 million people who all think indentically is primitive at best.
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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The idea that Muslims are comprised of one massive bloc of 1.6 million people who all think indentically is primitive at best.
    I know that. But I wonder who exactly believes the idea that Muslims act as one single population bloc?
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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    nope....it's utterly ignorant to believe over a billion people think and act as one.

    I think it's entirely possible to differentiate between radical fundamentalist Muslims and the rest... but i'm not sure what purpose is served by trying to strip the religious angle from the issue entirely.

    as I have said before, i'm a Mormon... and there exists a sect of fundamentalist Mormons( FLDS) who are complete and utter jackholes( they don't kill anyone, though).
    I'm perfectly supportive of bashing on fundamentalist Mormons, and I don't see the purpose is removing the religious angle from them either.

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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I had tried to ask this question in a earlier thread but I did not make my implications clear enough.

    This is the earlier thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...americans.html

    My question is this: do the actions of terrorist orginazation like ISIS and al Qaeda represent the entire Islamic faith, or are we able to distinguish between the militant fanatics and the uninvolved?
    All? Of course not. The notion is absurd. Most? No there, too. But, the percentage does seem to be higher than with other faiths.
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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nope....it's utterly ignorant to believe over a billion people think and act as one.

    I think it's entirely possible to differentiate between radical fundamentalist Muslims and the rest... but i'm not sure what purpose is served by trying to strip the religious angle from the issue entirely.

    as I have said before, i'm a Mormon... and there exists a sect of fundamentalist Mormons( FLDS) who are complete and utter jackholes( they don't kill anyone, though).
    I'm perfectly supportive of bashing on fundamentalist Mormons, and I don't see the purpose is removing the religious angle from them either.
    Are you expected to publicly condemn Warren Jeffs so that people can be assured that you yourself are not a pedophile or support pedophilia? That seems to be the issue here. That certain people expect from Muslims what is not expected of any other religious denomination dealing with its own issues. Are Catholics expected to condemn pedophilia so that we know they're not in favor of it? Are Christians expected to condemn the actions of Kony so that we know they don't support it? What about me? If I don't walk around telling people that I'm against gang violence, does that mean I support it? Nonsense. I have work to do and I keep most of my political opinions to myself and a small circle of friends.

    There seems to be a ridiculous expectation that Muslims - who may not even be politically aware - have to make us feel safe by doing something about terrorism. What makes it flawed is that there is a large percentage of Muslims who may not even be aware of terrorism as a topic of discussion (because of various factors: poverty, illiteracy, lack of information etc). As such, expecting them to even care or know about what happens in the West - to the extent where they can form a political opinion - is absurd.
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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you expected to publicly condemn Warren Jeffs so that people can be assured that you yourself are not a pedophile or support pedophilia? That seems to be the issue here. That certain people expect from Muslims what is not expected of any other religious denomination dealing with its own issues. Are Catholics expected to condemn pedophilia so that we know they're not in favor of it? Are Christians expected to condemn the actions of Kony so that we know they don't support it? What about me? If I don't walk around telling people that I'm against gang violence, does that mean I support it? Nonsense. I have work to do and I keep most of my political opinions to myself and a small circle of friends.

    There seems to be a ridiculous expectation that Muslims - who may not even be politically aware - have to make us feel safe by doing something about terrorism. What makes it flawed is that there is a large percentage of Muslims who may not even be aware of terrorism as a topic of discussion (because of various factors: poverty, illiteracy, lack of information etc). As such, expecting them to even care or know about what happens in the West - to the extent where they can form a political opinion - is absurd.
    well, when folks go after jackhole Mormons, they generally throw all Mormons in there for flavoring.. so whether or not it's expected that i denounce the asshats, i do so anyways... it's in my best interest to do so.
    what I do not expect is for anyone to to go after Jeffs and willfully ignore the religious component of his asshatery...that is an unreasonable expectation.
    the sick knucklehead is doing his thing according to how he understands his religion.. so i find it acceptable to call him out along those lines.... wanna' call him him an extremist or radical Mormon.. fine by me, it's accurate, and i'm not offended whatsoever

    so, in your estimation, what should happen?.. should we remove the religious component when it comes to these radical Islamists so we don't offend the non-radical Muslims?
    IMO, we shouldn't.

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    re: Do the actions of ISIS and al Qaeda represent the veiws of all Muslims?[w:23]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    All? Of course not. The notion is absurd. Most? No there, too. But, the percentage does seem to be higher than with other faiths.
    Heya Radcen. Agreed quite absurd and irrelevant.....is the question even framed Right?

    Did the Christians have to condemn what took place with their Spanish Inquisition? Did the Christians have to condemn the heretics of their Religion that tried to hijack that religion?

    Did it take 200 years for the Christians to drive out the heretics? Did it take the Hindus to chase out their heretics of Shiva? Each Major religion has had heretics and each has tried to hijack their own religion.

    How long do you think it will take the Muslims to figure out what is simple and the basics?

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