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Why do we fall?
So we can learn to pick ourselves up.
All of it has relevance to what you said. But due to it not just following what you said. But due to some realities that you forgot with all that you were saying......Do their Clerics make the journey to Mecca? From whatever country?????
Is that not how they spread the Word for those that are illiterate. Has not the Taliban showed for generations on what knowledge is passed and how? How about those Indonesian Clerics that are Muslim?
Also did you forget the Arab spring? Did you forget how their Clerics used Social media to get in touch with each other in different countries. Imagine that!
What happened? How many decades do we have to be told.....how many have been taught by word of mouth from those regions of the world that lack in education. Which says nothing of those who are Highly informed and knows exactly what is going. Like the King of the Saud and Sunni!
Heya SN. As Hatuey put it, over 1400 hundred years.
Nah, they can't even come up with a decent excuse in todays day and age. Would have been easier for them if they had done it back then when the Christians were doing it. At least they couldn't use any excuses over technology.
Plus lets not go with that.....Patience is a virtue and stuff like that.
I'm with Egypt's Sisi on this.....chop chop, get to work. Isn't that what he told all their Holymen who are the So Called leaders of the Sunni Doctrine in Egypt?
US should stop Syria not ISIS: Saudi Prince.....
U.S. policymakers should concentrate on eliminating the threat posed by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad instead of Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, according to an influential member of the Saudi Arabian royal family. Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud told CNBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos that the reason why Islamic State exists is because of what's happening in Syria and has called on U.S. authorities including the government, the Central Intelligence Agency and the military to act.
The prince, who is a former intelligence chief in Saudi Arabia and ambassador to the U.S., said that the United States is currently "leaving Assad to continue his murderous campaign." .....snip~
Hows that Muslim Sectarian Divide over Religion working? Here the Saud are still worried about Assad. But only due to Assad killing the Sunni Rebel/Terrorists from taking over his Country. Pretty much leaving Iran as the only Ruling Shia in Power left. Even though all of Iran is not Shia.
Also note.....how the Saud, tremble and make excuses for what they cannot do on their own. Never have been able to. Which is take out Assad's Tribe of Syrians. The only remaining DNA left to the Original Syrian Inhabitants.
The Saud always has to get others to do what they are not Man enough to do.....nor Honorable enough to do. Which is Deal with Assad themselves.
Last edited by MMC; 01-22-15 at 01:51 AM.
The Arab Spring (emphasis on Arab as opposed to Muslim Spring) spread in urban environments. It was a call for regime change that was worlds away from where most Muslims live and more importantly, had little to do with Islam itself. As such, there wasn't really an Arab Spring. There was an Egyptian Spring, an Tunisian Spring, etc. With that said, they were individual revolutions which were spread in urban centers and had little impact on the rest of the Muslim world.
Secondly, the people it did spread to did not join it based on an idea of solidarity with people of other countries against oppressive regimes, but the belief that they needed to address the situations in their own countries. It was a societal event restricted to mostly urban people in a small group of countries which shared similar regimes and situations. However, even in the supposed magnitude you claim it had, it failed to even register in countries like Pakistan (158 million) or Singapore (249 million), India (177 million), Bangladesh (144 million) where over 60% of all Muslims live. Hell, I could go down the list of Muslim countries and you'd find that the "Arab Spring" really had nothing to do with the Muslim world and even in countries with equally oppressive regimes, it failed to pick up any steam.
With all of that said, you really seem to not be able to understand that this is a world where there a hundreds of millions of people. Most of whom are concerned with personal situations like earning money, buying food, taking their kids to school etc. If the majority of Christians don't take time out of their day to tell us that they oppose things we all find abhorrent, what makes you think that the average moderate Muslim would?
So with this all said, even if your idea on what Muslims can do held any water, it would be restricted to situations in their countries and would have nothing to do with the West or for that matter international terrorism. Remember, Muslim countries deal with terrorism in their own territories. Asking them to address it like they did the Arab Spring would literally mean that most of the Muslim world would have nothing to do with addressing terrorism, and whomever did, would deal with it on his own land. So... the status quo.
Last edited by Hatuey; 01-22-15 at 02:05 AM.
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK