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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Deuce offers reason against your tirades, why not try to respond appropriately?
    Why are nations that we think of when we think of Islamic Terrorism a valid question when discussing Islamic Terrorism or Radical Islamic Terrorists?
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Name the top 5 nations you think of when you think Islamic terrorism. It's a simple discussion you refuse to have.
    Name the Top 5 nations that are producing poor circumstances in Middle Eastern countries that are leading the poor to turn to terrorism first.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Just like you wont condemn Christians who support terrorism.

    Muslims dislike cartoon -> protest. Terrorist kills cartoonist. Therefore Muslims support terrorism.

    Christians dislike abortion -> protest. Terrorist kills abortion doctor. Therefore Christians support terrorism.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Name the top 5 nations you think of when you think Islamic terrorism. It's a simple discussion you refuse to have.
    Iran
    Syria
    Afghanistan
    Pakistan
    Saudi Arabia
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Name the Top 5 nations that are producing poor circumstances in Middle Eastern countries that are leading the poor to turn to terrorism first.
    See? this guy gets it. There are factors other than the words in the holy book.

    The world's largest muslim population is Indonesia, but that country didn't cross Mbig's mind when he was off on his ad hominem rants. He also doesn't want to discuss the fact that Jews have just as much insanity in their holy books and for some reason aren't executing people for wearing clothing of two different cloths. And Christians? Not really worth discussing. The OT counts when they want it to, but when you criticize it they run away and claim it doesn't apply to them.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iran
    Syria
    Afghanistan
    Pakistan
    Saudi Arabia
    Top five Muslim populations:

    Indonesia
    Pakistan
    India
    Bangladesh
    Nigeria

    You got one out of five. Why aren't the bigger populations of Muslims causing more terrorism? If Islam is truly the primary variable, why does the correlation break down so hard?

    Because, clearly, it's not the primary variable. The more important circumstances are crappy living conditions, growing up in a violent environment, lack of education, lack of healthcare, an oppressive government, and so on.

    Religion doesn't kill people. People kill people.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    See? this guy gets it. There are factors other than the words in the holy book.

    The world's largest muslim population is Indonesia, but that country didn't cross Mbig's mind when he was off on his ad hominem rants. He also doesn't want to discuss the fact that Jews have just as much insanity in their holy books and for some reason aren't executing people for wearing clothing of two different cloths. And Christians? Not really worth discussing. The OT counts when they want it to, but when you criticize it they run away and claim it doesn't apply to them.
    Regardless of whether or not they are "real Muslims" or just terrorist scumbags is pretty much irrelevant though. They use passages from their religion that even some of the more moderate Muslims do not object to. They ARE Muslim. The reason that they turned to terrorism is due to socio-economic factors for a large majority but many are fervent believers that they are furthering their religion.

    Will you admit that at least some of those terrorists are, in fact, Muslims acting out aspects of Islam? I will admit that there are Christians and Jews that do the same, kill, in the name of their religion, especially Christians in parts of India and Africa. Jews are generally on the defensive since bombing the British back in the 30's and 40's.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Top five Muslim populations:

    Indonesia
    Pakistan
    India
    Bangladesh
    Nigeria

    You got one out of five. Why aren't the bigger populations of Muslims causing more terrorism? If Islam is truly the primary variable, why does the correlation break down so hard?
    In Indonesia, Radical Islam Threatens Democracy

    According to the Setara Institute, religious intolerance is on the rise in Indonesia, with a 30 percent increase in documented acts of violence and discrimination from 2009 and 2010 -- from 93 to 135, respectively. Most of these have included attacks on minority religious groups and their houses of worship as well as incitements of hatred through public statements. For instance, since Yudhoyono came to power in 2004, Muslim extremists have burned, attempted to shut down or opposed the construction of hundreds of churches.

    In Indonesia, Radical Islam Threatens Democracy
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Top five Muslim populations:

    Indonesia
    Pakistan
    India
    Bangladesh
    Nigeria

    You got one out of five. Why aren't the bigger populations of Muslims causing more terrorism? If Islam is truly the primary variable, why does the correlation break down so hard?

    Because, clearly, it's not the primary variable. The more important circumstances are crappy living conditions, growing up in a violent environment, lack of education, lack of healthcare, an oppressive government, and so on.

    Religion doesn't kill people. People kill people.
    Why aren't those larget Muslim populations stamping out the islamofacists?
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    This is actually quite common but has been going on at a lower level for decades. I saw and experienced the cross religious divide when I worked in Nigeria 20 years ago. Since my time there, Boko Haram has sprung up and is spreading from Nigeria into Cameroon and Niger and into Chad - provoking the strange scene of the Chad military attacking Boko Haram in North Eastern Nigeria and taking a Nigerian town (which the Nigerian military seem incapable of doing.



    It's not old, it's spreading.

    There is an age old hate which many westerners like you have little idea of until you actually live among peoples of split faiths in such communities.
    What's gotten old, what I'm speaking against, is the 'lowbrow juveniles' who use these terrorist events as an opportunity to voice their bigotry. It's other westerners doing this, mostly people from homogenous religious communities. I'm not speaking against religious bigotry in very sectarian societies, I understand how entrenched and immutable that is.
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