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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And would you agree a violent person is vastly more likely to find justification for murder in a religious book than a non-violent person? That said interpretation is much more likely to lean towards "BURN THE WITCH" if they're the sort of person who already wants to kill you?
    I would agree that most terrorists/violent people are brainwashed or have mental deficiencies of some type and that they can be used for violence by strong leaders...
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I would agree that most terrorists/violent people are brainwashed or have mental deficiencies of some type and that they can be used for violence by strong leaders...
    Right. The problem isn't the book. The problem is the person. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people.

    And a large number of Muslims live in poor countries, with less access to education, healthcare, clean food and water, greater threat of violence in their every day life, more oppressive governments, etc etc.

    If you want to end Islamic extremism, a new school and a clean water supply are better than a tank battalion.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. The problem isn't the book. The problem is the person. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people.

    And a large number of Muslims live in poor countries, with less access to education, healthcare, clean food and water, greater threat of violence in their every day life, more oppressive governments, etc etc.

    If you want to end Islamic extremism, a new school and a clean water supply are better than a tank battalion.
    I agree and the same argument can be made to help our own very violent inner cities... We need to address our own failures before we attempt to teach others, or attack them.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Because that isn't the point. The point is that we see a large group of Muslims reacting angrily and/or violently every time something happens that they find offensive. It isn't some small Christian like cult praising dead US soldiers on a street corner or the non-existent violent Buddhist reactions or Jews anywhere around the world other than Israel reacting with violence. It is the Muslims. It is Islam. Every time. Why do so many of you find that difficult to accept? Yes, there are hundreds of millions of nice peaceful Muslims. But the percentage of violent ones far exceeds any other religion. Why the dance? Why the evasion? Why can't you simply accept the truth? Not addressing the problem only helps it propagate and flourish.
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    I agree and the same argument can be made to help our own very violent inner cities... We need to address our own failures before we attempt to teach others, or attack them.
    I don't think you do agree.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. The problem isn't the book. The problem is the person. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people.

    And a large number of Muslims live in poor countries, with less access to education, healthcare, clean food and water, greater threat of violence in their every day life, more oppressive governments, etc etc.


    If you want to end Islamic extremism, a new school and a clean water supply are better than a tank battalion.
    BS on a stick.
    More of the daily, Hourly, Dishonest apologism of Deuce.

    Muslims are mostly are killing OTHER "Poor People" who are NOT doing the same to them.

    And even others are it's at a TINY Fraction of the rate.
    More People are killed in the Name of Islam EVERY DAY, and in some single HOURS, than are killed by many other religions in a Year.. or 30 YEARS.
    ie.

    re: November 2014 only.

    BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    10 December 2014

    Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.


    Civilians bore the brunt of the violence, with more than 2,000 killed in reported jihadist incidents during November 2014. Islamic State carried out the most attacks, adding to the spiralling death toll in Iraq and Syria. Explore the map to find out more.

    The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 Jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hour.

    [......]


    NO One LIES for Islam, or anything else for that matter, more than Deuce.

    Not a week goes by I don't correct him, and the very next hour he'll be LYING again.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    BS on a stick.
    More of the daily, Hourly, Dishonest apologism of Deuce.

    Muslims are mostly are killing OTHER "Poor People" who are NOT doing the same to them.
    Yes. Exactly. They kill those who do not do the same to them. Other Muslims. The majority of their victims are Muslim.

    It's amusing that you think "murderers kill innocent people more often than other murderers" is some stunning revelation. But hey, have fun with some more personal attacks, it's excellent proof you can't respond to the argument being made.

    And even others are it's at a TINY Fraction of the rate.
    More People are killed in the Name of Islam EVERY DAY, and in some single HOURS, than are killed by many other religions in a Year.. or 30 YEARS.
    ie.

    re: November 2014 only.

    BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    10 December 2014

    Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
    Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.


    Civilians bore the brunt of the violence, with more than 2,000 killed in reported jihadist incidents during November 2014. Islamic State carried out the most attacks, adding to the spiralling death toll in Iraq and Syria. Explore the map to find out more.

    The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hours

    [......]


    NO One LIES for Islam, or anything else for that matter, more than Deuce.

    Not a week goes by I don't correct him, and the very next hour he'll be LYING again.
    Oh look. I see you did that.

    You refuse to look at the real causes of violence. It's not the book.

    Here's a test that I think might help you see:

    Islamic Radicalism.

    When you see that term, I want you to name the five nations that you think make the biggest contribution. edit: let's stick to nations, as data is more readily available.

    I understand if you want to dodge the question.
    Last edited by Deuce; 01-30-15 at 10:31 PM.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. Exactly. They kill those who do not do the same to them. Other Muslims. The majority of their victims are Muslim.
    LYING again.
    We're NOT just talking about Muslims killing other Muslims in random street crime/poverty, etc...
    We're talking about Sunni Muslims killing Shia Muslims (and reverse) for RELIGIOUS REASONS.


    MORE DISHONESTY by Deuce.
    Every post, Every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by deuce

    It's amusing that you think "murderers kill innocent people more often than other murderers" is some stunning revelation. But hey, have fun with some more personal attacks, it's excellent proof you can't respond to the argument being made.
    Incoherent.
    This is another DISHONEST (or OBTUSE) Mischaracterization.
    What's with the "quote marks"? WHO are they quoting/characterizing? Not me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce
    Oh look. I see you did that.
    You refuse to look at the real causes of violence. It's not the book.
    Here's a test that I think might help you see:
    Islamic Radicalism.

    When you see that term, I want you to name the five nations that you think make the biggest contribution. edit: let's stick to nations, as data is more readily available.
    I understand if you want to dodge the question.
    Do you have ANY point here?
    If so, MAKE it instead this GOOFY challenge.

    I just put up REAL Data: ONE (kinda typical) month, 5000+ Dead, in 14 countries, at the hand of "JIHADIST Violence", NOT Random or street crime.
    Understand?
    'Jihad' IS killing in the NAME OF ISLAM.

    You? Nothing but More Blindingly Obtuse Nonsense and LIES.


    EDIT:
    Note Deuce's complete WHIFF Below and goofy nebulous 'challenge'/a point that even he can't make proactively.
    Unable to answer my CATEGORICAL DESTRUCTION of his Ridiculous post.
    Yes, he was unable to Tell the board what "Jihadist violence" means.
    DISHONESTLY trying to make it "poverty"/street crime and Leaving out the Fact it was still Muslim Sectarian/Religious violence even when on [Not the same] 'other Muslims.'
    Last edited by mbig; 01-30-15 at 11:33 PM.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    LYING again.
    We're NOT just talking about Muslims killing other Muslims in random street crime/poverty, etc...
    We're talking about Sunni Muslims killing Shia Muslims (and reverse) for RELIGIOUS REASONS.


    MORE DISHONESTY by Deuce.
    Every post, Every day.

    Incoherent.
    This is another DISHONEST (or OBTUSE) Mischaracterization.
    What's with the "quote marks"? WHO are they quoting?


    Do you have ANY point here?
    If so, MAKE it instead this GOOFY challenge.

    I just put up REAL Data: ONE (kinda typical) month, 5000+ Dead, in 14 countries, at the hand of "JIHADIST Violence", NOT Random crime.
    Understand?
    'Jihad' IS killing in the NAME OF ISLAM.

    You? Nothing but More Goofy Nonsense and LIES.
    If you would answer a simple question, my point would soon become more clear.

    But you didn't.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Much like 500,000 people just gathered in DC to support abortion clinic bombings.
    I knew you wouldn't condemn Muslims who support terrorism.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I knew you wouldn't condemn Muslims who support terrorism.
    Just like you wont condemn Christians who support terrorism.

    Muslims dislike cartoon -> protest. Terrorist kills cartoonist. Therefore Muslims support terrorism.

    Christians dislike abortion -> protest. Terrorist kills abortion doctor. Therefore Christians support terrorism.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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