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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How come you didn't post any links of Muslims condemning the attacks?
    Because that isn't the point. The point is that we see a large group of Muslims reacting angrily and/or violently every time something happens that they find offensive. It isn't some small Christian like cult praising dead US soldiers on a street corner or the non-existent violent Buddhist reactions or Jews anywhere around the world other than Israel reacting with violence. It is the Muslims. It is Islam. Every time. Why do so many of you find that difficult to accept? Yes, there are hundreds of millions of nice peaceful Muslims. But the percentage of violent ones far exceeds any other religion. Why the dance? Why the evasion? Why can't you simply accept the truth? Not addressing the problem only helps it propagate and flourish.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Because that isn't the point. The point is that we see a large group of Muslims reacting angrily and/or violently every time something happens that they find offensive. It isn't some small Christian like cult praising dead US soldiers on a street corner or the non-existent violent Buddhist reactions or Jews anywhere around the world other than Israel reacting with violence. It is the Muslims. It is Islam. Every time. Why do so many of you find that difficult to accept? Yes, there are hundreds of millions of nice peaceful Muslims. But the percentage of violent ones far exceeds any other religion. Why the dance? Why the evasion? Why can't you simply accept the truth? Not addressing the problem only helps it propagate and flourish.
    Christians aren't praising dead US soldiers because US soldiers aren't killing Muslims by the thousands.

    The Old Testament has just as much wacky, violent **** in it as the Koran does. Can you explain to me why you think Islam turns more people into murderers?

    You are the one who needs to address the problem. The real problem.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    IRA is still relatively active.

    There's this
    Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And this
    Assassination of George Tiller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And this (though it's probably just more political)
    Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and this (though it's from the 90's and outside the 10 year limit)
    US Domestic Terrorism: Murder of Dr. John Britton

    and this (also from the 90's)
    Bombing at Centennial Olympic Park — History.com This Day in History — 7/27/1996

    The fact is, not all terrorists are Muslim, in fact they don't play the dominate part and each religion it seems has acts of individuals committing terrorism against others.

    Are All Terrorists Muslims? It
    Bravo said in the name of Jesus Christ and your first one isn't about that... in face, there is nothing religious about it at all.

    The Joint Terrorism Task Force investigated the site, and police were treating the incident as an act of domestic terrorism. Oak Creek police handed the investigation over to the FBI. They were also investigating possible ties to white supremacist groups and other racial motivations. US Attorney General Eric Holder described the incident as "an act of terrorism, an act of hatred, a hate crime."
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Originally Posted by 11Bravo
    That's great, but how many killings in the name of Allah in the past 10 years vs. Jesus Christ?
    Lol, I'd love to see you cite this, as you completely ignored it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You didn't ask for that, you said Christian, I showed you Christain. I didn't ignore it. Jesus.
    Post #108 just four posts ago, or so...

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    Good point, let's list out terrorist acts in the name of Jesus Christ in the past 10 years, and then terrorist acts in the name of Allah in the past 10 years.

    It's interesting how you keep trying to move the goalposts here.
    Uh-huh....

    Listen, this comes down to one thing. You made a bad argument. .
    I'm merely highlighting why your argument is garbage.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Christians aren't praising dead US soldiers because US soldiers aren't killing Muslims by the thousands.

    The Old Testament has just as much wacky, violent **** in it as the Koran does. Can you explain to me why you think Islam turns more people into murderers?

    You are the one who needs to address the problem. The real problem.
    The real problem is the number of Muslims turning to violence is greater than the number from any other religion. Sure, they are using wacky violent crap that the Bible also has but the point is that more Muslims are ACTING on that violent wacky crap than are others.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Bravo said in the name of Jesus Christ and your first one isn't about that... in face, there is nothing religious about it at all.

    The Joint Terrorism Task Force investigated the site, and police were treating the incident as an act of domestic terrorism. Oak Creek police handed the investigation over to the FBI. They were also investigating possible ties to white supremacist groups and other racial motivations. US Attorney General Eric Holder described the incident as "an act of terrorism, an act of hatred, a hate crime."
    Those are all motivated by religion, and in this case it's the Christian religion. I know y'all want to rewrite the history here, but reality is as reality is. That last link, FYI, cites the State Department's statistics on terrorism, and the majority of it ain't Muslim.

    Oh, hey, look at what we have here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

    Lord's Resistance Army....guess they ain't Christian either. Know another Christian hate group (they've toned down there terrorism in the modern era); KKK.

    How about this?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks
    Just 4 years ago, in the name of Christ.
    In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island that killed 77 people. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500-page manifesto detailing his beliefs that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader"

    Hahaha.

    Though I don't say that these examples of Christian terrorism means there aren't enough moderate Christians. The vast majority of Christians will not engage in this behavior, the same as the majority of Muslims will not. But if Muslim terrorism shows there are not enough Muslim moderates, as the claim was, then likewise the existence of Christian terrorism means there are not enough Christian moderates.

    Hey, it wasn't my argument, take it up with the 11, he made the argument.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The real problem is the number of Muslims turning to violence is greater than the number from any other religion. Sure, they are using wacky violent crap that the Bible also has but the point is that more Muslims are ACTING on that violent wacky crap than are others.
    Right.

    Islam has wacky violent stuff in the books.
    Judaism has wacky violent stuff in the books.

    One religion has a greater instance of violence than the other.

    Clearly the variable of significance is not the words in the books.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right.

    Islam has wacky violent stuff in the books.
    Judaism has wacky violent stuff in the books.

    One religion has a greater instance of violence than the other.

    Clearly the variable of significance is not the words in the books.
    It is in the interpretation and/or indoctrination.
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is in the interpretation and/or indoctrination.
    And would you agree a violent person is vastly more likely to find justification for murder in a religious book than a non-violent person? That said interpretation is much more likely to lean towards "BURN THE WITCH" if they're the sort of person who already wants to kill you?
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    re: Muslim reaction to Charlie Hebdo terrorism [W:176]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Those are all motivated by religion, and in this case it's the Christian religion. I know y'all want to rewrite the history here, but reality is as reality is. That last link, FYI, cites the State Department's statistics on terrorism, and the majority of it ain't Muslim.

    Oh, hey, look at what we have here.

    Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Lord's Resistance Army....guess they ain't Christian either. Know another Christian hate group (they've toned down there terrorism in the modern era); KKK.

    How about this?
    2011 Norway attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Just 4 years ago, in the name of Christ.



    Hahaha.

    Though I don't say that these examples of Christian terrorism means there aren't enough moderate Christians. The vast majority of Christians will not engage in this behavior, the same as the majority of Muslims will not. But if Muslim terrorism shows there are not enough Muslim moderates, as the claim was, then likewise the existence of Christian terrorism means there are not enough Christian moderates.

    Hey, it wasn't my argument, take it up with the 11, he made the argument.
    There is a lot of violence done in the name of Christianity and even more in the name of Islam... Most people are concerned about terrorism and the Norway attack is a great example of that. That said, the State Department is much more concerned with Muslim terrorism than anything else:

    Country Reports on Terrorism 2013

    Almost all Christian Terrorism takes place in India and Africa and for the vast majority of incidents it is against the government and not against innocent civilians. That difference is huge compared to the ever growing Muslim violence against innocent civilians. How many Christians have hijacked planes? Suicide bombed weddings, schools or markets?
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