View Poll Results: Should we reduce or get rid of temp agencies?

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  • Yes, get rid of.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    um what? Where did I say anything about a solution or blowing up the system? All I was said was how there are a couple of temps where I work and it doesn't seem very much to the advantage of anyone since they have been here a little over 2 years.

    and who I voted for is none of ya business.

    ah...gee.

    the thread is about getting rid of temp agencies and you agree.

    that's blowing up the system.

    and there isn't even a problem, no one is forcing those people to work there.....if they don't like it, they can leave.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That has nothing to do with your employer. Those people have to take it up with their employer. And they have no idea what your employer pays their employer for their labor. And if your employer was going to hire them full time, they would know about this through their employer. Employers don't hire temps from agencies as a means of interviewing job candidates. What kind of business are you in and what is the skill set of these people? By the way, they are supposed to tell their agency that they want to leave and get a better assignment somewhere. They aren't supposed to be discussing it with the employees of the employer who has contracted for their work.
    I voted no and wonder what authority or legal precedent does the author of the poll speculate could be used to "get rid" of temp agencies? I've had experience working for two temp agencies and I have used them as an employer. Which is why I have to take exception to some of your comments tres borrachos. All of these details vary from state to state for obvious reasons, right to work laws (or as I like to call them, right to fire) etc. But I have found the practice of using temp agencies to spot potential good employes and hire them full time quite common. It's how I got hired by a fortune 500 company back in 2003 and they still follow the practice, though they also do direct hiring and recruitment at colleges too. This is not the case in your area?

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...-economy/?_r=0

    Over the last three years, the temp industry added more jobs in the United States than any other, according to the American Staffing Association, the trade group representing temp recruitment agencies, outsourcing specialists and the like
    Do you think we should get rid of or reduce the temp agencies? Do they seem to be part of the problem or solution?
    the current corporate scheme in my field is to staff the labs with "independent contractors," which are basically full time employees with an end date. i had a position like this a few years ago. i worked my ass off, got promoted to important committees, and was given verbal assurances that i would be hired as a real employee at the end of my contract. i'd describe the entire experience as something akin to Pinocchio waiting to be turned into a real boy. as my contract reached completion, my boss's boss was moved to emerging markets, and we got this new guy in who didn't know me. i started being treated like a second class employee where before i had been treated like anyone else. he even moved me from my regular cubicle to a much smaller one designed for visitors. needless to say, i was let go after doing a great job and working my ass off. i found the whole process to be a pile of ****. sad thing is that i might have to do it again.

    staffing your company with temps who are going to be fired on a specific date no matter what they do is terrible for morale. most will do the minimum not to get fired unless you lie to them and tell them they will be hired, as was my experience. do i want the practice banned? no. but if there was a union in my field, i would definitely join it. this is the kind of **** that happens when labor is unorganized. i have a graduate degree, and up until recently, there really wasn't a need for a union in my field. i assure you that there is now.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

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    I think Obama should ban jobs period.
    And then declare war on it. Then , like everything that has been down that road, they will explode! Jobs for EVERYONE!
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    The reasons for wanting to ban temp agencies in order to better support a healthier economy are only symptoms of a larger problem.


    What, so temp agencies make it easier for employers to exploit employees. Is that the fault of the temp agencies? Should we chase temp agencies down...or should we deal with the reasons for why employers want to exploit employees in the first place?
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I don't like your argument for one reason. But I'll answer:

    No they are not being forced to stay. However, they are temping in a job that they REALLY enjoy, and they are being told they are going to be brought on "soon". However, it appears that budgeting is a problem and it keeps getting pushed back more and more. So they think that soon they will get this job, but it seems like it may be a long time.

    I'm not saying that government "interfering" in this situation is appropriate, but it's just a crappy situation for them. They love what they're doing, but they're getting paid 2 times less than what their colleagues are making that actually work here, they don't get our PTO, and especially our benefits...yet they do our work.

    Can you understand that?
    You suggest they have been promised a different arrangement multiple times. Have you heard the phrase, Fool me once, bad on you. Fool me twice, bad on me?

    As I said, if they don't like the terms of their employment, they should find something else to do.

    BTW, I do not believe your they are being paid 2 times less statement.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    100% hit the nail on the head.


    We've had these two temps, GREAT guys, and they are being told "we should have an answer for you shortly". They've been told that a million times. They don't get our wonderful benefits and PTO. A shame.
    Precisely. I was applying for a job not too long ago, literally the add went up and I applied. I got a reply that a temp had already filled the job. So they advertised a job with benefits and filled it with someone who won't get them. And it isn't the first time this happened to me so I went to a temp agency. The pay sucks and no benefits.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You suggest they have been promised a different arrangement multiple times. Have you heard the phrase, Fool me once, bad on you. Fool me twice, bad on me?

    As I said, if they don't like the terms of their employment, they should find something else to do.

    BTW, I do not believe your they are being paid 2 times less statement.

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    Have you looked for a job in this market? If you are looking at a temp job they are all the same. You may get s different dollar value, but you won't get benefits.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the current corporate scheme in my field is to staff the labs with "independent contractors," which are basically full time employees with an end date. i had a position like this a few years ago. i worked my ass off, got promoted to important committees, and was given verbal assurances that i would be hired as a real employee at the end of my contract. i'd describe the entire experience as something akin to Pinocchio waiting to be turned into a real boy. as my contract reached completion, my boss's boss was moved to emerging markets, and we got this new guy in who didn't know me. i started being treated like a second class employee where before i had been treated like anyone else. he even moved me from my regular cubicle to a much smaller one designed for visitors. needless to say, i was let go after doing a great job and working my ass off. i found the whole process to be a pile of ****. sad thing is that i might have to do it again.

    staffing your company with temps who are going to be fired on a specific date no matter what they do is terrible for morale. most will do the minimum not to get fired unless you lie to them and tell them they will be hired, as was my experience. do i want the practice banned? no. but if there was a union in my field, i would definitely join it. this is the kind of **** that happens when labor is unorganized. i have a graduate degree, and up until recently, there really wasn't a need for a union in my field. i assure you that there is now.
    What I find concerning is that we are seeing far too much of the work force being forced into working for temp agencies Helix. It is a symptom of where things stand with our economy and not a good one in my opinion! I know some temp agency horror stories and then I know some great temp agency stories too. What you described is more the company you were temping for screwing you over than the temp agency! I've told many people over the years, if you are temping as a stepping stone to a permanent position someplace for more than a year and half and they are not making serious moves towards hiring you (calling you into HR, doing interviews, etc)? Then you need to move on to some other company if that is what you are using the temp agency job for.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    False statement. Employers can very well do that. If they hire a temp and they are doing a good job, why WOULD they hire someone else if there was an opening? We've brought on tons of temps from the very same staffing agency. However, it always takes 10 times as long as hoped. And quit acting so "by the book". You know dam well when employees become friends they start talking about compensation at some point. Some people like to talk about that crap. You know it happens, I know it happens. Deal with it.
    It isn't a false statement. And don't tell me how to act. Who are you anyway?
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