View Poll Results: Should we reduce or get rid of temp agencies?

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    [QUOTE=stonewall50;1064216663]http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...-economy/?_r=0

    Over the last three years, the temp industry added more jobs in the United States than any other, according to the American Staffing Association, the trade group representing temp recruitment agencies, outsourcing specialists and the like/QUOTE]

    Do you think we should get rid of or reduce the temp agencies? Do they seem to be part of the problem or solution?



    "the temp industry added more jobs in the United States than any other,..."

    They must go.

    This really ****s up Obama's plans
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I think many companies exploit them. For instance, there are about 4 temp workers in my department that have been here over 2 years now with no idea if they will ever be hired permanently. They don't have to give them benefits like sick time or healthcare. So while they do serve a purpose sometimes that gets taken advantage of so I am a little on the fence here.


    So, there is a case of abuse, and your solution is to blow up the system?

    You voted for Obama didn't you?
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    They work for the temp agency, but they report to us directly and do the same work we do. So they get their own temp pay rather than ours.
    That has nothing to do with your employer. Those people have to take it up with their employer. And they have no idea what your employer pays their employer for their labor. And if your employer was going to hire them full time, they would know about this through their employer. Employers don't hire temps from agencies as a means of interviewing job candidates. What kind of business are you in and what is the skill set of these people? By the way, they are supposed to tell their agency that they want to leave and get a better assignment somewhere. They aren't supposed to be discussing it with the employees of the employer who has contracted for their work.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by foadi View Post
    I think Obama should ban jobs period.
    He's trying

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    A good portion of my twenties was spent in temporary employment.

    My first temp job was for a manufacturer. This was an employee owned company and they used the temp agency as a sort of probationary period. Usually if you lasted 3 months they'd hire you on full time. Well, 5 months later they finally got around to hiring me on full time but, I was rather insulted by their foot dragging and after I made sure they spent the money on pre employment drug screening and physical I walked out at lunch one day never to return. Lesson? Don't take your temp employees for granted.

    My second temp job was a pool and spa distributor. This was a small shop, 6 employees including the owner. The owner was a verbally abusive schmuck. He had an inventory system only he understood and his entire shop was a safety hazard. One time as I was pulling a pallet off a shelf he failed to tell me it was supporting the contents on the shelf above it and I almost had the entire 4 story rack fall on my head. This was my fault of course. After being chastised in a most uncivilized manner for another instance which was not my fault (it wasn't I swear) I got tire of the verbal abuse and told him I was going to throw him over the balcony off the second floor loft if he spoke to me like that again. I was let go by his foreman at the end of the day.

    At another temp job where they worked you like a Hebrew slave, I had a full time employee speak to me in a manner unbecoming to which I proceeded to throw a box knife at that person's head. I received a phone call the next day telling me my services were no longer required.

    And still, at another temp job where they worked you like a dog I spent 4 months straight working seven days a week sometimes a double shift on the weekends to get hired on full time as the pay rate offered at that time was quite considerable. Well, the Team Lead's daughter was in my cohort and she of course was a shoe in for hire and my dedication and hard work made me a candidate for full time employment. Then, before the hiring processes started for me, the daughter of the Team Lead was hired and it was made known that NOW, after she was hired on the starting pay for the rest of us going to be $4 less an hour. A bomb threat was made on the building one day, (wasn't me, I swear, I was working) and we all were sent home. I never returned. They called me for two weeks begging me to come back and I said, "Nah, that's OK".

    So, idk, what yous tink?
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yes, and there are more from the same temp agency in other departments as well that also came on around the same time. I have no idea why they are keeping them on as temps, since they are great workers and there is definitely the need to have them on permanently.
    It's costing your employer a fortune to maintain temps through an agency. No clue why they'd do that.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Exactly the same for me. I don't trust them. They are easy to exploit. And it seems like many companies AND the government using them. Cheating the system. Plus how can you claim you are giving more jobs when they are crappy temp jobs that are not long term?

    I think we should aim to create real jobs and reduce employment agencies.


    What exactly IS a "real job"?

    I owned a company. We had 26 permanent, full time workers, and 6 part time, tech students and an intern now and again.

    Of the 26 full time, each was, by law, guaranteed twelve stat holidays and a minimum of two weeks vacation, or 22 days off. 22 times 26 is 572 working days a year out of total of 6,552 working days.

    What am I supposed to do, hire 3.2 people full time to cover those hours. or lose business?

    Meanwhile, there is a small army of out-of-the-work-force people who either cannot or chose not to work full time, and temp agencies are their choice? Do we simply tell them 'no' can't do that any more?

    And, for the record, 80% of our hires and promotions came from within, usually starting as part time or as a temp. let's just forget that.

    My dear lord, if the day ever comes that a progressive can understand the concept of thinking through their ideas and realize there are always consequences...usually unintended when it comes to socialists....
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That has nothing to do with your employer. Those people have to take it up with their employer. And they have no idea what your employer pays their employer for their labor. And if your employer was going to hire them full time, they would know about this through their employer. Employers don't hire temps from agencies as a means of interviewing job candidates. What kind of business are you in and what is the skill set of these people? By the way, they are supposed to tell their agency that they want to leave and get a better assignment somewhere. They aren't supposed to be discussing it with the employees of the employer who has contracted for their work.
    Employers don't hire temps from agencies as a means of interviewing job candidates
    False statement. Employers can very well do that. If they hire a temp and they are doing a good job, why WOULD they hire someone else if there was an opening? We've brought on tons of temps from the very same staffing agency. However, it always takes 10 times as long as hoped. And quit acting so "by the book". You know dam well when employees become friends they start talking about compensation at some point. Some people like to talk about that crap. You know it happens, I know it happens. Deal with it.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    So, there is a case of abuse, and your solution is to blow up the system?

    You voted for Obama didn't you?
    um what? Where did I say anything about a solution or blowing up the system? All I was said was how there are a couple of temps where I work and it doesn't seem very much to the advantage of anyone since they have been here a little over 2 years.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It's costing your employer a fortune to maintain temps through an agency. No clue why they'd do that.
    There's a lot of business decisions in the corporate world that are made that don't really make much sense.
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