View Poll Results: Should we reduce or get rid of temp agencies?

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  • Yes, get rid of.

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  • Yes, reduce.

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  • No.

    42 25.93%
  • No, they are helping.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I know???? Imagine not being grateful Massa finally gots around to mees...

    what you and the other one seemed to miss was that all of those anecdotes had the underlying theme of respect.

    In the first one, I was loved. Continuously praised for my work and demeanor. The front office actually called me asking me back, telling me all is forgiven. I knew I had another FT job lined up already and said thanks but no thanks.

    The one where I threatened life and limb and was throwing projectiles were my fault for letting my anger get the better of me. I should have just walked off, but you know, I'm not, nor should anyone else allow employers to behave in that manner.

    And the final one, I know, what a crappy attitude I had working 7 days a week pulling doubles happily for over 4 months and not accepting the blatant disrespect of a company who wiped their ass with my hard work but rewarded a Lead's daughter (who didn't put in the time or effort I did) in a most disgustingly blatant display of nepotism.

    Sounds to me like you and the other one had one too many run-ins with the paddyrollers and now know your place.
    Sorry, been an employer almost all my life. I know when an employee has a bad attitude the only thing that will cure that is the door.

    You brought a bad attitude to each job and expected, as evidenced by your post here, that the boss somehow owes you something, he doesn't.

    If, in your first example, your boss didn't think it was time to offer you a permanent position at that time, that was his right. Maybe he thought you grew a lot as an employee during that next 2 months and felt more secure offering you the job, who knows, but it was not your schedule that was important, but rather his, it was his company.

    I hope you have better luck with your employees than your bosses had with you.

    By the way, respect is earned, in case you did not know that.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Sorry, been an employer almost all my life. I know when an employee has a bad attitude the only thing that will cure that is the door.

    You brought a bad attitude to each job and expected, as evidenced by your post here, that the boss somehow owes you something, he doesn't.

    If, in your first example, your boss didn't think it was time to offer you a permanent position at that time, that was his right. Maybe he thought you grew a lot as an employee during that next 2 months and felt more secure offering you the job, who knows, but it was not your schedule that was important, but rather his, it was his company.

    I hope you have better luck with your employees than your bosses had with you.

    By the way, respect is earned, in case you did not know that.
    Actually, it was my labor, so it was my call. But this is a good example of the fallacy employers portray that Employees/Employers are equals for At Will and Right to work for less arguments.... (I know this to be false but it is a common, oh my god, I'm gonna actually say it, meme around political message boards...)

    I have had better "luck" actually, it comes with treating them like people and not chattel.

    I agree. And when earned but not given, you get what you get, as they got.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Actually, it was my labor, so it was my call. But this is a good example of the fallacy employers portray that Employees/Employers are equals for At Will and Right to work for less arguments.... (I know this to be false but it is a common, oh my god, I'm gonna actually say it, meme around political message boards...)

    I have had better "luck" actually, it comes with treating them like people and not chattel.

    I agree. And when earned but not given, you get what you get, as they got.
    So if one of your employees comes into your office and says he thinks he has worked enough to deserve a raise, you are going to let him call the shots?

    Somehow I doubt that.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Actually, it was my labor, so it was my call. But this is a good example of the fallacy employers portray that Employees/Employers are equals for At Will and Right to work for less arguments.... (I know this to be false but it is a common, oh my god, I'm gonna actually say it, meme around political message boards...)

    I have had better "luck" actually, it comes with treating them like people and not chattel.

    I agree. And when earned but not given, you get what you get, as they got.

    it is NEVER the employee's call

    management always has the upper hand

    you have choices....you can accept, counter, or walk

    My employees dont and cant call the shots......

    The first decision is always mine......
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Sorry, been an employer almost all my life. I know when an employee has a bad attitude the only thing that will cure that is the door.

    You brought a bad attitude to each job and expected, as evidenced by your post here, that the boss somehow owes you something, he doesn't.

    If, in your first example, your boss didn't think it was time to offer you a permanent position at that time, that was his right. Maybe he thought you grew a lot as an employee during that next 2 months and felt more secure offering you the job, who knows, but it was not your schedule that was important, but rather his, it was his company.

    I hope you have better luck with your employees than your bosses had with you.

    By the way, respect is earned, in case you did not know that.

    You have an air of some age behind you. Lemme clue you in, I'm not in my 20's or 30's anymore so your not teaching me anything, k?

    I don't get involved to much explaining my present day personal biz on these sites, but let me just tell you I'm not for want.

    Now, if I were going to pass on some words of wisdom it would be a simple phrase;

    Fortune favors the bold.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    it is NEVER the employee's call

    management always has the upper hand

    you have choices....you can accept, counter, or walk

    My employees dont and cant call the shots......

    The first decision is always mine......
    Of course it is Slave massa....

    They can walk at any time.

    Your decision is to present them with opportunity and options, it is there's to decide whether to accept.

    If none accept then you've got to change the options and opportunities.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So if one of your employees comes into your office and says he thinks he has worked enough to deserve a raise, you are going to let him call the shots?

    Somehow I doubt that.
    If he made a case for himself or herself, sure.

    I've had cooks come up to me and demand a raise, some I gave some I told the door is to the right, and it isn't locked, they're free to go. They could have walked off, left me in quite the pickle too. They didn't. Back then, I did. I've no regrets.

    If you're an employer you should recognize this character trait. It should be why you're an employer and not employed.
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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thanks for admitting I never posted anything about states or state laws.
    Look honey I have not posted lies or admitting to anything. Please take that by the numbers internet BS and throw it at some children. It won't get you anywhere with me because it is just so stupid and lazy. I clarified and addressed all of this in post #42 and #54. I normally find your post intelligent and well thought through. So in post #52 I addressed first the OP and shared what I voted. Then I pointed out that that companies do use temp agencies to vet prospective employees for permanent hire. Pointing out that certain business realities from state to state inform these practices. And I asked you if this was not the case in your area. For reasons I still don't get, you became immediately defensive. You avoided my question and said you could not understand my comments. So I clarified them in #54. I made myself clear and gave you specifics and exactly what I meant and asked you the same question, again. You then avoided everything I had said to you, twice, and offered this obtuse comment: I never made any argument about laws being followed and never mentioned states.

    So for whatever reason instead of the normally thoughtful posts I have seen from you in the past and even placed some likes on, now you can't even follow or address what I have said to you. Even when I patiently explain it to you. Instead you dodge my questions and avoid every point I have made. Instead you post accusations about "lies" and "admissions" you say I have made but that don't actually exist. For whatever reason you are coming across as something more hysterical than thoughtful today and yes at this point I give up. Again. For whatever reason you got real defensive real fast and it has not served you well.

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Of course it is Slave massa....

    They can walk at any time.

    Your decision is to present them with opportunity and options, it is there's to decide whether to accept.

    If none accept then you've got to change the options and opportunities.

    your first line wasnt necessary

    the rest i agree with 100%

    good employees are hard to come by, and even harder to retain

    i try not to lose them over little things

    one of the things they all want is respect from their boss

    i give.....to get

    it is a symbiotic relationship....but a fragile one
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

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    Re: Should we get rid of or reduce Temp Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    your first line wasnt necessary

    the rest i agree with 100%

    good employees are hard to come by, and even harder to retain

    i try not to lose them over little things

    one of the things they all want is respect from their boss

    i give.....to get

    it is a symbiotic relationship....but a fragile one
    I'll retract.

    I'm usually dealing with 3 or 4 posters at a time on any given thread and have to come strong out the gate. Sometimes people get a pop they don't deserve. Still, no excuse.

    Beg yer pardon...

    It is the lack of respect employers give their employees which create the most amount of troubles for the employers.

    It turns workers who'd otherwise have a "get'er done" attitude into a "Show up and get paid" attitude quicker than any other reason I know...
    "Oh no no no, you got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. ” -- Sheriff Chris Mannix

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