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    Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    You got two likes for having the chutzpah to ask?

    I like that...and so, I shall explain.

    Are we doing this to honor or to appease and what is the motivation, more appeasement? Because to me the "honor" reeks of condescension.

    If to honor are we certain it is an honor or will it be an addition to the hagiography of that individual? For instance, does everyone here know Rosa Parks wasn't some little old black lady with tired feet but an activist heavily involved in the civil rights movement? That MLK was hoisted up as a figurehead which thanks to his oratory skills and calls of non-violence made whites at that time more comfortable with the situation all the while plenty more unknown faces contributed and sacrificed much more to the movement?

    Why limit it to only blacks? And why at this time is this question being brought up? and what "contributions" exactly to society as a whole did these "civil rights" leaders bring?

    Nat Turner for leading a slave rebellion which ended in 60 deaths? and Freddie Douglas, for what? For being literate? For telling his harrowing tale? If killing white people was a celebratory cause I'd much rather see Crazy Horse or Sitting Bull or Geronimo even replace old Ben on the C-note.

    Truth be told, I can't remember the last time I actually held cash, and I don't see myself changing this policy anytime soon. My contention with the whole thing deals with the motivation behind it, the whole thing seems a bit patronizing...

    *and to come back to this -- Why mention race at all if this is truly about contributions to society? Does it matter? What about Cesar Chavez? Doesn't he merit? How many lives did his work help to improve? But it's gotta be black's we single out for merit why? Because they are black moreso than because of their contribution.

    Had this been a question about putting people who contributed to society on our money, than I'd say, great, but when you isolate it to a single race, well, to me that's racist and goes against the words of MLK's dream of judging by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
    ... Hmmm... interesting. Muddy the conversation and turn one race against another so that minorities stay off the currency in the meantime. It's better to go in historical order and put black folks on the currency before we start discussing the contributions of other people who are still being attacked and reviled today. It's not as if the pro-states-right-wing of this country would even consider discussing a supposed commie like Chavez 22 years after his death. Let's focus on the groups of people they've stopped trying to revile.
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    I noted some are against this. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... Hmmm... interesting. Muddy the conversation and turn one race against another so that minorities stay off the currency in the meantime. It's better to go in historical order and put black folks on the currency before we start discussing the contributions of other people who are still being attacked and reviled today. It's not as if the pro-states-right-wing of this country would even consider discussing a supposed commie like Chavez 22 years after his death. Let's focus on the groups of people they've stopped trying to revile.
    Muddy...interesting choice of words...

    Better to go historical? OK, than like I said Crazy Horse, Geronimo, Sitting Bull....Considering the land from which you type was theirs before it was ours I suspect their contribution should be considered quantifiably greater than all. Right?

    Latino's are reviled? Oh, you're confusing Latino's with Illegals. All Latino's are illegals in your book?

    And yet nothing is said on th greater point I made that actions and deeds are what should be celebrated and accentuated not race. Way to heal the racial divides...
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    Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    You got two likes for having the chutzpah to ask?

    I like that...and so, I shall explain.

    Are we doing this to honor or to appease and what is the motivation, more appeasement? Because to me the "honor" reeks of condescension.

    If to honor are we certain it is an honor or will it be an addition to the hagiography of that individual? For instance, does everyone here know Rosa Parks wasn't some little old black lady with tired feet but an activist heavily involved in the civil rights movement? That MLK was hoisted up as a figurehead which thanks to his oratory skills and calls of non-violence made whites at that time more comfortable with the situation all the while plenty more unknown faces contributed and sacrificed much more to the movement?

    Why limit it to only blacks? And why at this time is this question being brought up? and what "contributions" exactly to society as a whole did these "civil rights" leaders bring?

    Nat Turner for leading a slave rebellion which ended in 60 deaths? and Freddie Douglas, for what? For being literate? For telling his harrowing tale? If killing white people was a celebratory cause I'd much rather see Crazy Horse or Sitting Bull or Geronimo even replace old Ben on the C-note.

    Truth be told, I can't remember the last time I actually held cash, and I don't see myself changing this policy anytime soon. My contention with the whole thing deals with the motivation behind it, the whole thing seems a bit patronizing...

    *and to come back to this -- Why mention race at all if this is truly about contributions to society? Does it matter? What about Cesar Chavez? Doesn't he merit? How many lives did his work help to improve? But it's gotta be black's we single out for merit why? Because they are black moreso than because of their contribution.

    Had this been a question about putting people who contributed to society on our money, than I'd say, great, but when you isolate it to a single race, well, to me that's racist and goes against the words of MLK's dream of judging by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
    Who said anything about "isolating it to a single race"? Nowhere in the OP or anywhere else in the thread did anyone say "put black civil rights leaders on our money and NOBODY ELSE, especially not Mexicans."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    As long as you aren't talking about the bigots Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, I certainly agree that actual civil rights leaders should be on currency.

    You have to be dead for a certain number of years before your portrait can be on currency. Plus it is not hard to find someone way better than those two race parasites to put on our currency.
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    Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think I remember seeing somewhere that pennies cost more to make now than what they're worth.
    That is true.But at the same time paper money costs between 4.9 cents to 12.3 cents per note to make.So this idea that we are going red or wasting money to make currency is wasting us a **** load of money is absurd argument.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Muddy...interesting choice of words...
    I call it as I see it.

    Better to go historical? OK, than like I said Crazy Horse, Geronimo, Sitting Bull....
    Still making my point for me? Good. Wait... what do any of those people have to do with civil rights? Nothing? Lol.

    Considering the land from which you type was theirs before it was ours I suspect their contribution should be considered quantifiably greater than all. Right?

    Latino's are reviled? Oh, you're confusing Latino's with Illegals. All Latino's are illegals in your book?
    If your reading comprehension is really that much of an issue, you really should stop posting.

    And yet nothing is said on th greater point I made that actions and deeds are what should be celebrated and accentuated not race. Way to heal the racial divides...
    Utter nonsense. Your post was an attempt to muddy the issue by asking irrelevant "What about this person!? What about these people!?" - it's the usual non-argument made by people who have no interest in putting something other than whites on our currency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Who said anything about "isolating it to a single race"? Nowhere in the OP or anywhere else in the thread did anyone say "put black civil rights leaders on our money and NOBODY ELSE, especially not Mexicans."
    This is the best you could come back with, eh?

    What did the title read? Did it get into specifics or just the general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I call it as I see it.
    Oh, I see...

    Still making my point for me? Good. Wait... what do any of those people have to do with civil rights? Nothing? Lol.
    Wha??



    If your reading comprehension is really that much of an issue, you really should stop posting.
    But it isn't, so I won't.



    Utter nonsense. Your post was an attempt to muddy the issue by asking irrelevant "What about this person!? What about these people!?" - it's the usual non-argument made by people who have no interest in putting something other than whites on our currency.

    Yes, your whole presumptuous position is just that. Nonsense.
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    Re: Should we put black civil rights and historical figures on our currency? Read fir

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    This is the best you could come back with, eh?

    What did the title read? Did it get into specifics or just the general?

    So to answer -- jamesrage.
    Please link to the exact sentence in which jamesrage says "black civil rights leaders and ONLY black civil rights leaders." You do realize that arguing for one thing does not preclude supporting other things?
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