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Have White Americans benefited from Civil Rights era gains?

Have White Americans benefitted from Civil Rights era gains?

  • Yes, we've benefitted greatly same as Blacks

    Votes: 9 81.8%
  • No, I've noticed no significant benefit to me

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • No, I still get along nicely with my African-American peers

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • No, things have gotten worse for me as a White American since the Civil Rights era

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Sarcasm aside, you do realize that said "federal safety net spending" isn't done exclusively for Black people, right?

Which is exactly my point. White folks are just as apt to fall into the government dependency trap. The idea that handouts help folks "catch up" should mean that their need should diminish over time yet that is clearly not the case.'
 
I don't pretend to nor feel it is vital to do so. Like the Supreme Court and obscenity - I simply recognize it when I see it.

Then I suppose I have no reason to care.
 
Terrific.

It is however not terriffic that you haven't figured out in all the years we have talked that I don't care what the supreme court thinks on anything. They're just bunch of assholes that strip people of their freedoms and do me no favors in their existence.
 
It is however not terriffic that you haven't figured out in all the years we have talked that I don't care what the supreme court thinks on anything. They're just bunch of assholes that strip people of their freedoms and do me no favors in their existence.

Not at all. I fully realize you believe what you believe.
 
The movie, Selma, debuted today and among the masses who gathered at the Edmund Pettis Bridge in Selma, AL were many Blacks and White both young and old just as it was during the actual march so many years ago.

On this Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday, we, of course, hear of the significant gains made by African Americans in Civil Rights legislation and social acceptance. But I was wondering on this day where African-Americans celebrate the essence of "we shall overcome" if White Americans feel the same way? In short, do White Americans feel as if things are significant different for them as well in a positive way since the Civil Rights era? What gains, if any, do White Americans feel they've obtained in a post-Civil Rights era in America?

I know it's a strange question to ask, but I'm curious to know how White people feel about the changes this country have made since then and how such changes are affecting their lives today.

Culturally, everyone has benefited from most civil rights legislation. That legislation that deals with affirmative action is problematic. I don't know how you create equality by giving preferential treatment to one particular group. I understand affirmative action as a vehicle to get minorities assimilated in the work place so historically, I understand it's relevance however at a certain point, it becomes another form of discrimination.
 
of course we have all benefited, the country benefited, the people that fought for those rights all helped cement the rights that already existed and the rights that followed that were being denied.
 
That might have been true for your parents growing up, but it might not have been the case for ModerateGOP since in most cases racism is geographical almost as much as it is conscionable.

I'm from Louisiana. ModerateGOP is from New Jersey...let's see...
 
before civil rights were effected, there were white businesses and black businesses
and when able to shop at the perceived superior white businesses, the black community did so
to the detriment of the black business owners (and employees)
so, white business owners then benefitted from a larger market

and urban renewal, "negro removal" was the expression novelist James Baldwin used, certainly displaced black business and home owners from thus 'blighted' communities; from what would soon be very desirable real estate. so, that is another way white Americans were benefitted from the advent of the civil rights act. they became owners of lucrative properties formerly owned by members of the black community who were displaced using the power of eminent domain

certainly, there were other, more positive aspects to be noted, but i anticipated these might not be mentioned, so i have thus intruded with my snark
 
Good question. I love questions and perspectives I've never heard before.

Its hard to say. Certainly is non-tangible ways: getting to feel better about society, ability to enjoy a more interesting culture. There have also been significant contribution from black Americans that have benefited all races but many occurred before the civil rights movement.
 
The movie, Selma, debuted today and among the masses who gathered at the Edmund Pettis Bridge in Selma, AL were many Blacks and White both young and old just as it was during the actual march so many years ago.

On this Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday, we, of course, hear of the significant gains made by African Americans in Civil Rights legislation and social acceptance. But I was wondering on this day where African-Americans celebrate the essence of "we shall overcome" if White Americans feel the same way? In short, do White Americans feel as if things are significant different for them as well in a positive way since the Civil Rights era? What gains, if any, do White Americans feel they've obtained in a post-Civil Rights era in America?

I know it's a strange question to ask, but I'm curious to know how White people feel about the changes this country have made since then and how such changes are affecting their lives today.

The VP of my division (my boss' boss) is black and he's probably the best executive I've ever worked for in almost 30 years of working. If this were 60 years ago, he never could have achieved the role he has today. So I'll say "yes" if nothing else because I personally benefitted. The Civil Rights movement allowed great black people to achieve greatness.
 
Which is exactly my point. White folks are just as apt to fall into the government dependency trap. The idea that handouts help folks "catch up" should mean that their need should diminish over time yet that is clearly not the case.'

That aside, do you believe White Americans have benefited from Civil Rights era gains in any way? If so, how?
 
Absolutely,unless white women don't count!:2wave::peace
 
Id say no benefit for me personally. I work in an organization that is 75 pct white male. However only 25 pct of the supervisory positions are occupied by white males. Its due to affirmative action that has become discriminatory, but as a white male, i have no recourse. No voice, that makes it racist.
 
Whites have benefitted in a myriad of ways...
 
Good question. I love questions and perspectives I've never heard before.

Its hard to say. Certainly is non-tangible ways: getting to feel better about society, ability to enjoy a more interesting culture. There have also been significant contribution from black Americans that have benefited all races but many occurred before the civil rights movement.

And economically... think of all the business benefitting from black patronage...
 
And economically... think of all the business benefitting from black patronage...

This is true. The black American economic impact is strong enough to be a member of the G8 all by itself.
 
That's not true. My parents became adults in the late 50's and were friends with people of other races.

Being friendly with your servants doesn't count.
 
Yes they have.


As a general cosmic universal rule, if those beneath you benefit and become better off then all those above them benefit and become better off even more so and I'd say that has largely been true. It's the basic universal life algorithm of "The rich get richer" no matter what. The same rule applies to justice. The less injustice in traditionally impoverished communities means even less injustice in the traditionally wealthy communities. (Because obviously, if Jamal or Ruben have less incentive to steal from Mr. Smith, then obviously Mr. Smith is better off).


In the end (and this can be hard to stomach for a lot of social leftists), if a minority gets a pay raise hypothetically speaking then a non minority likely got three pay raises hypothetically speaking. Obviously that's a "good thing" for the non minority just as much as it is for the minority.
 
We should have never given the irish equal rights.

My grandfather owned a restaurant in virginia. He always secretly served blacks. Once when some famous jazz musicians were touring, duke elington, etc, he told them to pull the bus around back and secretly fed them. He was a big jazz fan.
 
As a bussiness owner I can't say I'm more free because of the civil rights era. In fact, the legislation that came out of it violates my property and assocation rights. If anyone truly believes we are better off because of the civil rights act they're idiots.

well the civil rights act does 2 things, 1 good and 1 bad, it violates the rights of citizens by the 2 reasons you listed, but i did a good thing by making government apply privileges to all citizens equally.

civil rights= privileges, .....not natural rights.
 
You aren't a very good businessman if you want to discriminate against entire portions of the population. Good businesses will try to capitalize on those markets

thats correct under true capitalism, ..not government intervention into business.
 
well the civil rights act does 2 things, 1 good and 1 bad, it violates the rights of citizens by the 2 reasons you listed, but i did a good thing by making government apply privileges to all citizens equally.

civil rights= privileges, .....not natural rights.

no, civil rights = natural rights
 
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