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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many people you call rich are going to be pinched with higher taxes. If you are the parent of two high achieving children, you can easily be paying 100K a year for tuition at two Ivy league colleges. So if you make 300K a year you are considered "rich" by the parasites and after taxes and tuition you might only have 50K or so left . Hardly a huge amount of wealth required to buy lots of luxuries
    ... The vast majority of people have literally no relation to this statement. So I guess I and the vast majority of people who couldn't afford to go to an Ivy League college are just parasites, huh?

    and what is a luxury? if you are on minimum wage-a television or a cell phone is a luxury
    A luxury, according to Merriam-Webster, is "something that is expensive and not necessary." Neither a cell phone nor a television are a luxury because both communication and access to information are necessary for life in the 21st Century.

    paying for what you use is the ultimate morality that is superior to your attitude that I have a duty to pay more for those who aren't as industrious or talented
    Talent is not measured by wealth. That's an absurd statement.
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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    ... The vast majority of people have literally no relation to this statement. So I guess I and the vast majority of people who couldn't afford to go to an Ivy League college are just parasites, huh?



    A luxury, according to Merriam-Webster, is "something that is expensive and not necessary." Neither a cell phone nor a television are a luxury because both communication and access to information are necessary for life in the 21st Century.



    Talent is not measured by wealth. That's an absurd statement.
    opinion noted and not shared. I tire of people telling other people what they need or don't need

    if you can pay for something and want it that is sufficient

    if you cannot pay for something and can survive without it-your "need" is not sufficient to force others to pay for it



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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    God, does this guy suck.
    Yes....thinking that the middle/working classes deserve a break is such an awful thing. It sucks having a President that cares about the people who are struggling in this country.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....thinking that the middle/working classes deserve a break is such an awful thing. It sucks having a President that cares about the people who are struggling in this country.
    Boy, if you think that is what he is doing, you better take off those rose colored glasses, because you are missing everything.
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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Boy, if you think that is what he is doing, you better take off those rose colored glasses, because you are missing everything.
    LOL....how do you define tax cuts for the working/middle class? Since you seem to believe that it is a horrible and evil thing.
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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....thinking that the middle/working classes deserve a break is such an awful thing. It sucks having a President that cares about the people who are struggling in this country.
    You bought into this political ploy just as Obama intended you to. Good job dude.

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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....how do you define tax cuts for the working/middle class? Since you seem to believe that it is a horrible and evil thing.
    I don't believe this moron for a second, okay? There will be no meaningful tax cuts, no one in the middle class will feel any relief. That's just a token he's throwing in to get what he really wants, a tax increase. He has no desire to cut taxes at all. What's our debt, $18,000,000,000,000? LOL! Is it because the government hasn't confiscated enough of our earnings? Nope. Maybe they are spending just a tad too much. And what has he done there? Pedal to the metal, and pile on new debt.
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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    opinion noted and not shared. I tire of people telling other people what they need or don't need
    You're statement about how someone with 300K has only 50K after taxes and paying for Ivy League tuitions shows no realization of reality for the most people. What are you going to tell someone who only makes 50K in the first place about your plan. Or better yet, tell someone who only makes 20K that you want to raise taxes on them so that you can have more spending money.

    if you can pay for something and want it that is sufficient
    So if I want food and I can pay for it it's a luxury? Terrible definition

    if you cannot pay for something and can survive without it-your "need" is not sufficient to force others to pay for it
    So people should only be given enough assistance to "survive," but not to live? How do you define survive, btw?
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    You're statement about how someone with 300K has only 50K after taxes and paying for Ivy League tuitions shows no realization of reality for the most people. What are you going to tell someone who only makes 50K in the first place about your plan. Or better yet, tell someone who only makes 20K that you want to raise taxes on them so that you can have more spending money.



    So if I want food and I can pay for it it's a luxury? Terrible definition



    So people should only be given enough assistance to "survive," but not to live? How do you define survive, btw?
    cry me a river. Your existence is no just claim on my wealth.

    and people should pay more if they want more services

    its a lie to say that I want more spending money at the cost of someone else

    I already PAY MORE Than I use, and the turd in chief says I should pay even more so people like you will vote for turds like him because they tell you they will give you the money of others
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    Re: Obama proposes tax increase -cuts?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    cry me a river. Your existence is no just claim on my wealth.
    Dude, this isn't a personal attack on your wealth.

    and people should pay more if they want more services
    Not everyone has that capability.

    its a lie to say that I want more spending money at the cost of someone else
    Really? You want the rich to have money they pay in taxes to able to keep it and 'use it.' That sounds like spending money.

    I already PAY MORE Than I use, and the turd in chief says I should pay even more so people like you will vote for turds like him because they tell you they will give you the money of others
    Is your anecdote about 300K a year personal? Because in that case the government is only taxing 1/6 of your income.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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