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Are politics/communities a waste of time for americans?

michijo said:
As I was saying, there are a lot of options to just love it or leave it. People who hate the USA have flown planes into our buildings. If you of really hate the USA then you want to destroy it, even if only through spreading a negative attitude.
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I think we have a candidate for ISIS on our hands... :roll:
 
This is my new oil painting of subcomandante Marcos. I did it on a wooden flooring sample I found in a box such samples in an alley behind a flooring store. It was high quality wood that said farmhouse maple on the back. What better place to paint the Marcos who represents Mayan corn farmers in Chiapas Mexico.

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michijo said:
Spare me your Horatio Alger sophisms. I'm 36. I don't care about the north American class system and education scheme. After all I'm an artist. I like Painting, not advancing my social position with the next greatest car or home ownership. My parents didn't own a home. I was born in apartment. I don't care about American way of life. I don't see why anyone literally has to deal with this crap. Up north they complain that if you don't vote you are a hipster and hipsters are bad. I don't even understand. Why pressure someone into a community? Are you some kind of commmunity fascists? Give me a break one time.
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Who's pressuring you into socializing with anyone? Many folks live off the grid, and no one is twisting your arm to vote or discuss or to sign up on any political discussion board. You are welcome to walk, use the bus, buy a cellphone or not. So what gives? Its not always others who cause our personal misery. Happiness comes from within.
 
michijo said:
The entire USA seems to be forced assimilation. Thats our game, force people to become Americans. Now if you are born here, but maybe you don't really want to take part, it's like people harass you. They want you to have American version of religion. The Christians here hate even Christians of foreign nations who practice a non American evangelical form of Christianity such as Latin American Catholics.

Then there is voting pressure. Fr years I have noticed voting prssure, rock the vote. When I lived up north I remember once on a public library window it said if you don't vote you are of hipster. Like criminalizing some subgroup known as hipster and attcking people.to hell with this land. You'd find out I really hate the USA quite a bit more than you can even dream.
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You have two options here. You can engage politically, run for office etc and change what you don't like, or you can move. :)
 
michijo said:
F$ck the USA. If they dropped a nuclear bomb on washington dc, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
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And who stuck a burnt stick up your ass?

You hate America but have nothing better to do than post on American forums....

Now THAT is I R O N Y....
 
SocialDemocrat said:
There are no legitimate excuses for choosing not to vote in an American context.
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YEs there are. You can be so mentally advanced that you are beyond life and death and voting is beneath you. You people that say I have to vote are really the enemies of freedom.
 
Lovebug said:
You have two options here. You can engage politically, run for office etc and change what you don't like, or you can move. :)
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More bullsh$t American love it or leave it talk. I'm not going to run for anything. You are allowed to live in the land you are from and to believe that it is corrupt beyond your repair and that all political parties available are futile. You just don't want any American embracing infinity. You want us off on a wild goose chase of community involvement wasting out time thinking we can change things.

I do not choose my words as a politican does, thinking of kissing babies or religious butts in order to get votes like some phony Kennedy democrat.
 
Lutherf said:
This is pretty much exactly the reason I stopped taking acid.
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You know, based on events over the last 20 years I wonder if that was a good decision. Sometimes Tim Leary looks like a genius and dropping out and tuning in appears much more comfortable than what our politicians have been able to serve up.
 
michijo said:
YEs there are. You can be so mentally advanced that you are beyond life and death and voting is beneath you. You people that say I have to vote are really the enemies of freedom.
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Let's not stretch the definition of freedom here. Enemies of freedom are people who prevent people from voting and therefore prevent them from being allowed to fairly express their opinion. What freedom would you lose if you were forced to vote?
 
SocialDemocrat said:
Let's not stretch the definition of freedom here. Enemies of freedom are people who prevent people from voting and therefore prevent them from being allowed to fairly express their opinion. What freedom would you lose if you were forced to vote?
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It's been done. Look at this old paper. Kennedy tries to run with racist george Wallace to get votes from Alabamans. See how the democrats are slimy trying even to get votes from Alabamans by buddying up with a racist and segregation supporter? DO you honestly think that I want involvement in politics who am merely a painter tag rides around on his bike. My support only goes for true heros like subcomandante Marcos.

Kennedy Wallace Gadsden Times - Google News Archive Search
 
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michijo said:
For most Americans, an intelligent thing would be to practice apolitical standoint, like being asexual, having no political participation. My parents were like this. They never voted. They were not really conservative or liberal. I am seeing the wisdom of this myself lately. As an American, most foreigners don't respect you because they think you are stupid and know nothing about politics, so straight off being globally political is a waste of time. Then you have the fact that if you don't really care who the president is. After all you only live once, and while it was a good idea to vote for kerry to get rid of bush, he actually lost. Then you continually face movements that seek to up everyone else down like libertarian. If I was dead, I couldn't vote. Since I will be dead open day as a matter of fact, then why vote now? Why waste even a moment more of your life needlessly voting or even thinking about the I government that you can't control? Just act as a stupid as possible and make it as hard as possible for anyone to do anhing political and have fun! Absolutely do not volunteer for anything political even if it's only the green party.
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And yet you participate in politics by posting in debate forums.

Can anyone spell I R O N Y?

...an "artist" who wants nothing from society who plugs up an entire thread over posting.

Oh, it just keeps getting better and better....

I love this place on weekends, it has a surreal quality....
 
michijo said:
It's been done. Look at this old paper. Kennedy tries to run with racist george Wallace to get votes from Alabamans. See how the democrats are slimy trying even to get votes from Alabamans by buddying up with a racist and segregation supporter? DO you honestly think that I want involvement in politics who am merely a painter tag rides around on his bike. My support only goes for true heros like subcomandante Marcos.

Kennedy Wallace Gadsden Times - Google News Archive Search
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Then maybe vote for someone other than Kennedy...
 
SocialDemocrat said:
Then maybe vote for someone other than Kennedy...
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I was kind of hoping on my right to be a useless member of this society rather than be a throw away tool for someone else's political power ego trip like green party, who use you and throw you away and kiss the butts of Christians.

I like Marcos because he's not an American, he represents the true underdogs of north American society. Let him complain about neoliberalism and become the president of a unified north America. But don't drag me into any of this progressive American politics. I think it's all a sham.
 
michijo said:
I was kind of hoping on my right to be a useless member of this society rather than be a throw away tool for someone else's political power ego trip like green party, who use you and throw you away and kiss the butts of Christians.

I like Marcos because he's not an American, he represents the true underdogs of north American society. Let him complain about neoliberalism and become the president of a unified north America. But don't drag me into any of this progressive American politics. I think it's all a sham.
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Weren't you considering moving to South America (which you confused with Central America)?
 
nota bene said:
Weren't you considering moving to South America (which you confused with Central America)?
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I don't like Christian/conservative women. Christian women need a punch in the nose. Just a personal dislike from me. I am allowed to NOT like Christian women right? What's the best way to hit a Christian woman in the face? Elbow to the nose or fist? I'd try both. Then forcibly shave her head while she was unconscious.

Why don't you move there? I forgot, you hate freedom and hate the individual. You conservatives say one nation against the individual, one nation against neutrality. With duality and ultimatums for all. A nation that believes in love of mind control.

Ah, it's a screenshot I took from a documentary called "prisoner of the iron bars from brazil". They were showing artwork the prisoners were doing. One made a wooden Spanish galleon. They find this guy painting a mural.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376835/

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Feel better now? Not that you answered my simple question....
 
nota bene said:
Feel better now? Not that you answered my simple question....
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Why should I supply personal information to a likely disrespectful enemy? Actually my ex girlfriend and I were talking about going to Colombia. She is a Hispanic woman from Colombia originally, and I already have a TEFL certificate. I've taught English to African refugees in the USA already and know how to do it. Her family is there and it would be an easy transition. It's a shame you conservatives only want to rile people up.
 
michijo said:
Why should I supply personal information to a likely disrespectful enemy? Actually my ex girlfriend and I were talking about going to Colombia. She is a Hispanic woman from Colombia originally, and I already have a TEFL certificate. I've taught English to African refugees in the USA already and know how to do it. Her family is there and it would be an easy transition. It's a shame you conservatives only want to rile people up.
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I'm not "you conservatives." What a shame that you're so willing to anticipate disrespect.

I recall your stating at some point your intent of relocating to "Central America" (actually, South America) but don't intend to search through all the threads, so I asked this simple question. Sometimes, a cigar....
 
nota bene said:
I'm not "you conservatives." What a shame that you're so willing to anticipate disrespect.

I recall your stating at some point your intent of relocating to "Central America" (actually, South America) but don't intend to search through all the threads, so I asked this simple question. Sometimes, a cigar....
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Whatever. You USA woman are a scourge upon the land.
 
I knew the stereotype for the whiny yet ambivalent Leftist existed, but it's a rather hilarious pleasure to see it a little more up close. Then to see them as an aspiring artist just provides the dessert.
 
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