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Thread: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I disagree ... primarily because , as Fiddytree said, there is an unnecessary conflation of radical Islam and Islam.... and extremist Muslim and Muslim.

    listen, I'm a Mormon, and we , like every other church, have their extremists.... I don't mind when folks talk about these asshats as radical Mormons, or extremist Mormons, or even fundamentalist Mormons ( that's what they call themselves)... i do, however, get bent out of shape when they are conflated with mainstream Mormons.

    if we are shooting for accuracy, it's best not to be purposefully inaccurate..... those dudes, and dudes like them,.. are radical extremists Muslims practicing, and doing evil deeds in the name of , radical extremist Islam....

    in any event, it needs to be made clear that this donnybrook is with the radicals, not the mainstream.... but it's wrong to pretend like their wacky radical religious beliefs aren't at the heart of their actions... it's not only wrong, but it's also a lie.
    I think it's great that you don't mind if some people use the term radical Mormons, but you are just one person and you don't speak for all Mormons. Look at post #3 and tell that person doesn't think all Muslims are bad. And that's the problem today, too many people are blaming Islam for all the things these terrorist do.


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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If that's so, then why are we dropping all of those bombs on ISIS ?

    Explain that if you can.
    Been reported that its doing almost no good.

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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think it's great that you don't mind if some people use the term radical Mormons, but you are just one person and you don't speak for all Mormons. Look at post #3 and tell that person doesn't think all Muslims are bad. And that's the problem today, too many people are blaming Islam for all the things these terrorist do.



    Alright, let's say the goal is to not really deal with the truth, but to linguistically shift political perceptions.

    If you want to equivocate, at least make sure it is a believable distinction you're making. If you can't convince the majority of it, don't do it.

    Few are buying it.
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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    That's the latest lib talking point. Of course, like most lib talking points, it's utterly ridiculous.

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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    This is just painful. It's like that time our genius President called the terrorism at Fort Hood "Work Place Violence".
    Wait....

    The "individuals" are "mostly Muslim" but because they do not hold to the traditional views of Islam, they are therefor NOT "Radical Islam". Further they are killing other Muslims, and that means for sure they are neither "radical" nor "Islam".

    Got it.


    And now back to our regularly scheduled reality. Upcoming: A new report shows Libya is terrorist free due to US foreign policy.
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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think it's great that you don't mind if some people use the term radical Mormons, but you are just one person and you don't speak for all Mormons. Look at post #3 and tell that person doesn't think all Muslims are bad. And that's the problem today, too many people are blaming Islam for all the things these terrorist do.
    then the correct response is to correct the people who are thinking inaccurately... not create another lie so the other lie won't bear fruit.... 2 lies don't make a truth.

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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I agree, that the administration has surrendered to Islam and will not speak poorly of it.


    I hate to say this, but I think they are frightened. I think they had this great idea they could assuage the barbarians with glib words, like Roman Caesars who tried to appease the barbarians a thousand years ago. Now that it is clearly failing, perhaps emboldening them, the Obama administration simply wants to get out alive. By not inflaming them they hope to make it to the end of the term without another 911 because they have no idea how to respond. And, as has been SOP for six years they can say "It wasn't us."

    They're scared.
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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    then the correct response is to correct the people who are thinking inaccurately... not create another lie so the other lie won't bear fruit.... 2 lies don't make a truth.
    I think it's okay to discuss escaping truth for a moment to actually consider how to avoid telling the hard truth readily. You have to be able to do it by convincing your audience about its necessity. If you can't convince people that you are right, it's a foolish enterprise to do so.

    To exaggerate my point: If you are going to lie, at least make it sound believable and persuade the majority to join in.
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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Been reported that its doing almost no good
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    We're not trying to do good. The idea is to kill those people and put them out of business.

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    Re: Josh Earnest: Wouldn’t Be Accurate to Call Paris Attackers ‘Radical Islamists’

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    We're not trying to do good. The idea is to kill those people and put them out of business.
    Clearly still in business.

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