View Poll Results: Which of the following should be legally bared from homeschooling their kids?

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  • Convicted Child Abusers.

    173 60.07%
  • Convicted Sex Offenders.

    150 52.08%
  • Parents that lack a high school diploma or GED.

    240 83.33%
  • Other - Explain.

    132 45.83%
  • There should be no restricts at all on which parents can home school.

    4 1.39%
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Thread: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I routinely listen to podcasts while I am on a run and yesterday listened to one on the deregulation of homeschooling. First off, this thread is not about whether parents should be able to home school or not. Homeschooling is largely a First Amendment issue, so if you want to debate that, then start a thread on it. Instead this is a question of whether there should be any minimal restrictions on who can home school. For example, in the majority of states there are no restrictions preventing any of the following from homeschooling their kids:

    Convicted Sex Offenders
    Convicted Child Abusers
    Parents that lack a high school diploma.

    So the question is, do you think there should be any such restrictions on parents that choose to home school? The NPR podcast is here if you are interested: The deregulation of homeschooling? | Radio Times | WHYY
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I routinely listen to podcasts while I am on a run and yesterday listened to one on the deregulation of homeschooling. First off, this thread is not about whether parents should be able to home school or not. Homeschooling is largely a First Amendment issue, so if you want to debate that, then start a thread on it. Instead this is a question of whether there should be any minimal restrictions on who can home school. For example, in the majority of states there are no restrictions preventing any of the following from homeschooling their kids:

    Convicted Sex Offenders
    Convicted Child Abusers
    Parents that lack a high school diploma.

    So the question is, do you think there should be any such restrictions on parents that choose to home school? The NPR podcast is here if you are interested: The deregulation of homeschooling? | Radio Times | WHYY
    Convicted child abusers shouldn't have custody of any minor, let alone be home schooling them. Convicted sex offenders, if the offense is against a minor, shouldn't either.

    Other than that, it needs to be a decision of the parents and not of the government.
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'd agree, if I agreed with standardizing people and that all children are all clones of each other.

    Simply put, I vehemently oppose standardized testing. They reduce everyone to the lowest denominator and penalize uniqueness, while rewarding being generic - minimally acceptable at everything but specialized in nothing.
    Simply put, it's sometimes needed.

    My parents did a great job Homeschooling me. Admittedly, I'm a tad weak in the STEM fields (or, rather, on par with the average American student ), simply because neither of my parents specialized in such subjects themselves.

    However, as far as reading, writing, and critical thinking are concerned, I was easily light-years ahead of anyone in my peer group.

    Other Homeschoolers I knew? Eh... Not so much.

    While they aren't common, there certainly are some horror stories out there. Make no mistake.

    "Unschooling" in particular tends to be rather hit or miss. I knew at least one "unschooling" family that wasn't able to get any of their children into college, because they were so busy focusing on art, language, and music that they never bothered to seriously teach math, science, or English. They all basically flunked their SATs as such.
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Sooo... in your opinion it's fine for child abusers and sex offenders to have children in their home. Rather, they just shouldn't be allowed to educate the children.

    I oppose genocidal zombies and homicidal psychotics from being allowed to be teachers. Yet there is no restriction on this. OMG!
    Whether a child is removed from a home or not is contingent or the parent being a present danger to their child. The system always favors keeping kids with their parents if at all possible. For example, if a parent physically abused their kids 20 years ago, was convicted and sought treatment, then there is nothing legally preventing them from having another kid and parenting that child today. The question then is whether that parent should be able to home school and if so should their be some sort of oversight to ensure that they are not using home schooling as a way to prevent others from finding out they are abusing their child.

    This is not some red herring either, it has happened.

    Abuse in Homeschooling Environments - Coalition for Responsible Home Education

    As I stated earlier though, such a restriction in my opinion should only be placed upon convicted abusers, thus the vast majority of people would not be impacted.
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    I don't think sex offenders or child abusers should have kids at all, so let's just throw those out right now. I think that all schools, public, private and home, need to provide a minimum level of education that cannot be ignored, forgotten about or otherwise not taught, regardless of the beliefs of the parents. If we're going to say that children need to be educated, we can't make exceptions because it might hurt someone's feelings. I also think that homeschooling is a privilege, not a right. As such, all children need to be tested regularly in a setting outside of the home and those children who cannot pass the tests need to be forced to return to a school setting outside of the home.
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Convicted child abusers shouldn't have custody of any minor, let alone be home schooling them. Convicted sex offenders, if the offense is against a minor, shouldn't either.

    Other than that, it needs to be a decision of the parents and not of the government.
    I think that's an overly broad statement though. For example, if a parent physically abuses their child, then seeks treatment, and by all indications no longer abuses their child, do you think their parental rights should still be revoked?
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I routinely listen to podcasts while I am on a run and yesterday listened to one on the deregulation of homeschooling. First off, this thread is not about whether parents should be able to home school or not. Homeschooling is largely a First Amendment issue, so if you want to debate that, then start a thread on it. Instead this is a question of whether there should be any minimal restrictions on who can home school. For example, in the majority of states there are no restrictions preventing any of the following from homeschooling their kids:

    Convicted Sex Offenders
    Convicted Child Abusers
    Parents that lack a high school diploma.

    So the question is, do you think there should be any such restrictions on parents that choose to home school? The NPR podcast is here if you are interested: The deregulation of homeschooling? | Radio Times | WHYY
    We may have a much bigger problem to deal with than just home schooling, if we have Convicted Sex Offenders and Convicted Child Abusers around kids in any regard then something was missed. Usually these sorts of convictions come with the conclusion of being on registry lists and other mechanisms of tracking which should include limitations on being around kids. Teaching then, at home or at a school, would be out of the question. Would it not?
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    We may have a much bigger problem to deal with than just home schooling, if we have Convicted Sex Offenders and Convicted Child Abusers around kids in any regard then something was missed. Usually these sorts of convictions come with the conclusion of being on registry lists and other mechanisms of tracking which should include limitations on being around kids. Teaching then, at home or at a school, would be out of the question. Would it not?
    Child abusers only lose parental rights if they are deemed a current danger to their child. For example a convicted child abuser that sought treatment and by all indications was no longer abusive to their child would not lose their parental rights. The question then should they be able to home school.
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    Re: Which requirements should be placed upon parents that choose to home school?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I routinely listen to podcasts while I am on a run and yesterday listened to one on the deregulation of homeschooling. First off, this thread is not about whether parents should be able to home school or not. Homeschooling is largely a First Amendment issue, so if you want to debate that, then start a thread on it. Instead this is a question of whether there should be any minimal restrictions on who can home school. For example, in the majority of states there are no restrictions preventing any of the following from homeschooling their kids:

    Convicted Sex Offenders
    Convicted Child Abusers
    Parents that lack a high school diploma.

    So the question is, do you think there should be any such restrictions on parents that choose to home school? The NPR podcast is here if you are interested: The deregulation of homeschooling? | Radio Times | WHYY
    It says "their children" so sex offenders and abusers are already in the environment.
    This is about the desire of parents to get their child a better education, faster, and
    without gov't indoctrination. I think the testing for the homeschoolers is the key to
    logical decision-making regarding the child's education. If the child it testing well
    with the Education Department approved testing format and tests, then it is a moot
    point. If the child shows lack of progress or failure, it is a good time to assess a
    possible intervention or insistence that the child be moved into the public education
    network and that choice is not because public education is better but because it is the
    alternative.

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