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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Under Republicans, I get to keep civil rights.

    Under democrats, I do not.
    No you don't. Repubs have no concept of privacy nor restriction on search and seizure. No respect for free speech, they support increasingly militarized policing of the population, contributed to the volume of laws that makes America the #1 jailer of its own peoe world wide. They expand bureaucracy and government power and have no respect for the rights and liberties of the individual. You don't keep your rights with any of the Republocrats.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No you don't. Repubs have no concept of privacy nor restriction on search and seizure. No respect for free speech, they support increasingly militarized policing of the population, contributed to the volume of laws that makes America the #1 jailer of its own peoe world wide. They expand bureaucracy and government power and have no respect for the rights and liberties of the individual. You don't keep your rights with any of the Republocrats.
    I have seen freedom of expression crushed in this nation - but not by Republicans. I look and those who attacked Hobby Lobby and the Little Sisters of the Poor, and I don't see Republicans - I see the party. I have seen people branded with a scarlet letter for holding views that our rulers opposed, speak against homosexuality and lose your job at the very least. I see the party accrue privilege to groups, while denying rights to individuals.

    The Republicans are weak in defending civil rights.

    The democrats are strong is attacking civil rights.

    The Republicans (and democrats) agreed to monitor cell phone traffic to foreign nationals in Muslim countries suspected of ties to Al Qaeda.

    The democrats spied on enemies of the party and set the IRS on them.

    There is no legitimate comparison.

    I wish the Republicans were dedicated to defending civil rights - but I know that the democrats are fully committed to ending civil rights.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    How was Slavery the North's business?

    No Ad Hominem present. I accurately described elective abortion as what it actually is.

    It is the legal ability for one human being to dehumanize, and even grievously harm, another without consequence, simply because that first person is considered to be more "socially relevant" than the second. You could describe historical attitudes towards child and domestic abuse, as well slavery, in exactly the same way.

    I'm sorry if the comparison makes you uncomfortable.
    Because the North and the South were a country? Last I checked it was the United States of America, no?

    And no you didn't. You're fallaciously assuming that a fetus is, in fact, a human being -- which, so far, isn't the case. You may think the fetus is a human being, and I may think the fetus is not, but that doesn't make your opinion superior to mine. So it is a stretch to extend treating a human being poorly in the same way as treating a non-human being in the same way.

    Doesn't make me feel uncomfortable but your meager attempts are slander won't go unnoticed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No you don't. Repubs have no concept of privacy nor restriction on search and seizure. No respect for free speech, they support increasingly militarized policing of the population, contributed to the volume of laws that makes America the #1 jailer of its own peoe world wide. They expand bureaucracy and government power and have no respect for the rights and liberties of the individual. You don't keep your rights with any of the Republocrats.
    Let's not forget how Republicans think criticizing their religion violates the First Amendment.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Because the North and the South were a country? Last I checked it was the United States of America, no?
    The wanton slaughter of unborn children presently takes place in my own country as well. Does it not?

    And no you didn't. You're fallaciously assuming that a fetus is, in fact, a human being -- which, so far, isn't the case.
    The term you are looking for here is "person," not "human being," which is a legal construct anyway. The fact that a fetus is a "human being" on a biological or genetic basis is undeniable.

    Though... I guess it is worth noting that Southern slave owners tried to justify their actions by claiming that African Americans were neither legal "persons," nor even, in some cases, the same species as their Causasian owners as well.

    Dehumanizing their victims makes the dishing out of flagrant abuse easier to stomach for a lot of people, it seems.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The wanton slaughter of unborn children presently takes place in my own country as well. Does it not?

    The term you are looking for here is "person," not "human being," which is a legal construct anyway. The fact that a fetus is a "human being" on a biological or genetic basis is undeniable.

    Though... I guess it is worth noting that Southern slave owners tried to justify their actions by claiming that African Americans were neither legal "persons," or even, in some cases, the same species as their Causasian owners as well.
    Nope. Abortions take place.

    I know what I said, no reason to clarify, thanks. And that is deniable. What does it mean to be a human being? Simply having human DNA?
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They both do it as much as possible, R or D, there's no difference. Republocrats all act similarly.
    Can you give us an example of a lie, deliberately pedaled to the American people (who were called stupid by its authors), and passed unilaterally on all Americans that forced them to comply or face a heavy fine?

    This will be good.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No you don't. Repubs have no concept of privacy nor restriction on search and seizure. No respect for free speech, they support increasingly militarized policing of the population, contributed to the volume of laws that makes America the #1 jailer of its own peoe world wide. They expand bureaucracy and government power and have no respect for the rights and liberties of the individual. You don't keep your rights with any of the Republocrats.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Using your parameters for morality in your case, it is immoral, under any circumstance to harm anybody. What if someone can be helped if you harm another person?
    As I said it is a basis, there can always be moral delimas. In your case, it is moral to help person A but immoral to hurt person B. Not helping person A is not hurting them so not helping them is morally neutral. Therefore, in your scenario, I would not help person A if it hurts person B.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Under Republicans, I get to keep civil rights.

    Under democrats, I do not.
    That's funny. Under Republicans, I have less civil rights and under Democrats I have the same as everybody else.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    I have seen freedom of expression crushed in this nation - but not by Republicans. I look and those who attacked Hobby Lobby and the Little Sisters of the Poor, and I don't see Republicans - I see the party. I have seen people branded with a scarlet letter for holding views that our rulers opposed, speak against homosexuality and lose your job at the very least. I see the party accrue privilege to groups, while denying rights to individuals.

    The Republicans are weak in defending civil rights.

    The democrats are strong is attacking civil rights.

    The Republicans (and democrats) agreed to monitor cell phone traffic to foreign nationals in Muslim countries suspected of ties to Al Qaeda.

    The democrats spied on enemies of the party and set the IRS on them.

    There is no legitimate comparison.

    I wish the Republicans were dedicated to defending civil rights - but I know that the democrats are fully committed to ending civil rights.
    The Republicans are strong at denying equal rights.
    The Democrats are good at attacking the civil rights they dont agree with, this I admit.
    I will support the people that come closest to giving me equal rights.

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