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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Based on what? You can't just say something. If you want to be taken seriously when making a blanket statement about an entire group of people, then you need to back it up. If its your contention that many if not most liberals are moral nihilists, then you need to define what you mean by a moral nihilist and provide some evidence to back up your contention.
    My observation of the left is that ethics are situational at best. Is lying wrong? That depends, does the lie serve the party? If so lying is good. Is harming others wrong? That depends, does the harm inflicted serve the goals of the party? If so, harming others is good.

    From what I can tell, the credo of the democratic party is that good and bad are only measures of that which serves the party.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think many lefties are.
    Many righties are too, they just run around pretending to be moral, but then never act in accordance to it. Morality is just a political talking point for many Republocrats.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    I'm so sad...

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Lol @ people on the internet tying the vagaries of morality to a political spectrum.. That's like saying my brand of microwave is better than your brand of microwave. It's silly and childish.

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    You can always tell the idiots in a room by who labels peoples morality by their political affiliations. It's idiocy defined. Can you imagine if you were able to pull up all the sexual doings of the average "Conservative Grand Puba" on this board who tie morality to political conservatism? My god.. You can begin to imagine what I mean. People are hypocrites and delusional when it comes to notions of morality.

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    My observation of the left is that ethics are situational at best. Is lying wrong? That depends, does the lie serve the party? If so lying is good. Is harming others wrong? That depends, does the harm inflicted serve the goals of the party? If so, harming others is good.

    From what I can tell, the credo of the democratic party is that good and bad are only measures of that which serves the party.
    My observation is that people that make statements like the one you did above are blindly partisan.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    I would say I have a sense of morality... but it has changed over time as I have. For instance, when I returned from leave at work, I noticed that the garage I parked in still let me in even though I hadn't paid. I could have used that pass until they figured out that it should have been inactive (and who knows how long that would have been), but I called the garage and got my monthly payments set back up. Here's the question though: Would I have done that a few years ago when I was working for $10 an hour and getting no respect? I can't say for sure.

    However, I would say that I failed a lot of tests of morality from the age of 17-22. I wasn't a great kid then.
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    does morality change with age? i think so.......

    i know i look at things differently now, than say 25-30 years ago

    i am much more harsh on some items....i would personally put a bullet in the brain of every pedophile in prison...save the government millions...and wouldnt shed one tear doing it

    I have personally seen the damage one monster can cause

    i am very tough when it comes to business......hard to work for, and my expectations for people are always higher than what they would set for themselves

    But i am a softie for charity events that come around......i try to help as much as i can

    Things where i may have seen the grey 10-15 years ago, are now very black or white to me

    What is the old saying.....if i only knew then, what i know now

    take it from me.....things do change.....including on how you view the world
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    How so?
    Because he's right, so there. Pfft. Does that answer your question?
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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Where did I argue that everyone simply gets to pick and choose their concept of right and wrong as though it were a cafeteria?
    Isn't that question pretty much the title of this thread?

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    Re: Do you have a personal concept of right and wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    People don't seem to understand what nihilism actually is. Just because I don't think there is a concept in the universe itself for morality does not mean that I don't think there is an ethical standard amongst the human species, and an ideal amongst its individual members. The fact that it is not some sort of "ultimate law" doesn't change anything about practical life, emotion, or empathy as we experience it.
    This is definitely something I've noticed a lot. Those who get upset about objective or subjective morality are always trying to compare human actions against a non-human set of rules. We certainly have rules and a sense of right and wrong, but it comes from our humanity. Plenty of people have different ideas and plenty of people make wrong decisions, but that has nothing to do with our species having an innate sense of what we think is right and what we thing is wrong. I think that it's part of our biology and our evolution. Most of our ideas of right and wrong come from cooperation vs selfishness. We evolved as a cooperative species and we value community and order because of our evolution, not because of something external to ourselves.

    As you say elsewhere, the universe doesn't care. The world doesn't care. Nothing outside of humanity cares about humanity's morality. But having a morality is part of being human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    How many truly conservative people have you met who could really be called, throughout their whole life, "sexually or morally pure" if we knew their whole past? I doubt it's many at all.
    What does the quantity of sexual partners a person has have to do with morality?
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