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    Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    A few of our posters seem to think that anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan is a acolyte of Saul Alinksy. Has the writings, work, or anything that Saul Alinsky did at any point in his life from his birth to his death influenced your beliefs in any way at all?
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Myth at best, avoidance at worse. Just because one is left of Ronald Reagan does not means they subscribe to Saul Alinksy.
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    My personal set of beliefs and morals were firmly in place before I knew who Saul Alinsky even was.
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Why not post the 'Rules for Radicals' for comparative purposes?

    Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

    * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

    * RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

    * RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)


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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Myth at best, avoidance at worse. Just because one is left of Ronald Reagan does not means they subscribe to Saul Alinksy.
    My point in the poll is that who even heard of the guy until right wing talk radio made an issue of him back in the 2008 campaign. I think some of the hacks on here don't seem to get that most people arrive at their personal ideological beliefs on their own and their personal ideology is more a reflection of their personality and personal values than it is what some radical did or wrote.
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Well I didn't even know who he was until this morning.
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    My personal set of beliefs and morals were firmly in place before I knew who Saul Alinsky even was.
    I believe this to be true for me also. [or Reagan for that matter]
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    My values were in place probably firmly when I was 12 and I decided to sit down and decide who I was (with revisions as I learned more info, but my core is the same). I had not heard of this Saul person until Barack Obama was up for election.

    To be quite honest, I don't know who this Saul person is nor do I care.

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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    My personal set of beliefs and morals were firmly in place before I knew who Saul Alinsky even was.
    Same here, moreover they are constantly evolving.
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    Re: Does the work of Saul Alinksy influence any of your beliefs?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Same here, moreover they are constantly evolving.
    Mine are as well. I can say with 100% certainty that Saul Alinsky has had zero influence on any thought I've ever had. The right's obsession with him is hilarious to me.
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