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I've never heard of Saul Alinsky before today.
I've never heard of Saul Alinsky before today.
Actually, I believe him. That was probably only a year or two ago.12? There's no way.
I would bet Alinsky influenced more people on right than on the left. I never heard of the guy until a conservative told me about him.
Alinsky is circir circuitous to many lefties. You don't know enough to know the people that influenced you were in fact heavily influenced by Alinsky.
Alinsky is circir circuitous to many lefties. You don't know enough to know the people that influenced you were in fact heavily influenced by Alinsky.
Many righties too. And since the tactics are actually older than dirt, pretty much every one is influenced by them. So in your thread on this, where you ignorant of this, or where you being dishonest?
Alinsky's most important text was published in 1971. Most of the foundational members of the New Left had come of age in the early 1960s and were already influenced by other figures: C. Wright Mills, Claude Levi Straus, Allen Ginsberg, Bertrand Russell, and so on. Direct action protests and community organizing were hardly Alinsky's creation or even popularized by him. The community action programs (and their downfall) of the mid-1960s predate publication and dissemination by several years.
Conservatives make a mistake in focusing so disproportionately on Alinsky, when Alinsky borrowed heavily from Machiavelli and Sun Tzu. Many of Alinsky's observations were hardly original and had been incredibly basic formulations of political philosophy, put into practice for centuries. Sure, some well-known community organizing groups were directly influenced by Alinsky, but how he became the focal point of modern Leftism for conservatives is quite amusing.
Leftism is old as dirt as well, no new ideas, just the same rehashed class struggle and critical theory.
Alinsky was already well known by the early 70's. His influence goes back much longer. And that influence impacted many prominent lefties.
I don't know and you do? Thats hilarious, you don't know who I am or what my real name is, yet you know all about me. :roll: Does your Chrystal ball tell you I grew up in a Republican family?Alinsky is circuitous to many lefties. You don't know enough to know the people that influenced you were in fact heavily influenced by Alinsky.
So instead of manning up and answering the question, you run away leaving a trail of tired cliches behind you.
That's fantastic, but you're quoting a book that was published one year before his death and had hardly been a unique presence in the intellectual discussion surrounding protest and political philosophy.
I just felt the need to remind you that you conservatives have been so insulated from intellectual history that when someone tells you about Alinsky, you feel as though it was a revelation on the Left. It wasn't.
I don't know and you do? Thats hilarious, you don't know who I am or what my real name is, yet you know all about me. :roll: Does your Chrystal ball tell you I grew up in a Republican family?
One need only look at the tactics employed by lefties, and the inspiration they themselves cite. Its not hard.
Where did I quote any of his books?
More mindless blather.
Kobie, read some Alinsky and Orwell when you aren't at the factory. It will be elucidating.
I don't know and you do? Thats hilarious, you don't know who I am or what my real name is, yet you know all about me. :roll: Does your Chrystal ball tell you I grew up in a Republican family?
I've read more Orwell than you have.
Its obvious, lefties have an inability to comprehend how they appear to non-lefties. The libertarians see it too. :2wave:
I doubt it. And, for the record, what you read in high school while still good, isn't quite as substantive as in college. Just something to consider.
Its obvious, lefties have an inability to comprehend how they appear to non-lefties. The libertarians see it too. :2wave:
Oh is that why libertarians are so successful?
It's obvious you spew mindless blather. You make **** up as you go.