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Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?


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so you want to punish all muslims ,good but it doesnt make you different from the radicals

Are you comparing a cartoon to mass murder? I would say that the murder of a million Armenians, by Muslims fare outweighs a cartoon.
 
Westerners are killing people with drone strikes, bombs and gunfire- and they kill a lot more than the terrorists in France have.

When all the the terrorists go away, we'll stop.
 
I'm so torn on this issue. On the one hand, I take a "**** it, I'm sick of someone being offended all of the time" attitude. Then again, I wonder....is it wise to intentionally offend 1 billion Muslims?

Where do you draw the line? Today, the Muslims are offended by Muhammed cartoons. Tomorrow, they're offended by the existence of Jews and the day after that, they're offended by Christianity. Are we going to abolish/subdue everything that gets their panties in a knot?
 
so you want to punish all muslims ,good but it doesnt make you different from the radicals

Most people disagree with what religious teachings really say, but that doesn't stop many of them from calling themselves followers of whatever faith they happened to decide on or where raised to believe. These radicals as you call them are pretty much the only ones that follow their book.
 
Rarely are there ever just two options, and surely almost never-ever are you the one to decide how many options there are.

Non-violent protest.

I shouldn't need to kill anyone in order to make them believe killing somebody is wrong.
Don't you see where that leads?

Assuming you can make violent sadists believe killing someone is wrong can be a fatal mistake.

Do you believe that non-violent protests would have stopped the Nazi holocaust? Do non-violent protests ever bring the murdered back to life?
 
Are you comparing a cartoon to mass murder? I would say that the murder of a million Armenians, by Muslims fare outweighs a cartoon.

this thread isnt about your hate and delusions

l warn you to stop attacking me
 
Who is Godwin? If you have an argument to make, make it, instead of hiding behind code words. What do you mean by "attempted genocide?" Was it also "attempted genocide" to bomb cities during WWII and kill tens of thousands in a single raid? To hell with the dirty SOB's.

Good lord.....are you that much of a newb to forums?

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Assuming you can make violent sadists believe killing someone is wrong can be a fatal mistake.

So it's too much work to even try?

Is there anything to lose by trying non-violent methods?
 
When I was young my mom always told me that if youve got nothing good to say then dont say anything. I think a few Muslims have become intolerant simply because they feel disrespected by the West and quite a few of their countries are occupied by Western militaries and people are dying over there.

EXACTLY!

As expected, instead of looking inward for some of the causes of this terrorism, people choose to look outward, blame others and turn militant.
Typical ignorant masses reaction.

Hitler turned average Germans against Jews. I wonder how long it will take western leaders to turn their ignorant citizens against decent Muslims?

These terrorists are sick f@cks. But the principle reason they are doing what they are doing is probably because of the horrible acts and murders of innocent civilians AND the propping up of horrific regimes the West (led by America) has done over the last 20 years or so.

And though I condemn any violence against innocent people...I do not blame those in the Middle East ONE LITTLE BIT for despising all things American.
American-Western actions are killing their children or allowing others to do the same.
People freak out about a beheading - yet Saudi Arabia does it ALL THE TIME and no one mentions it. This is hypocrisy.

Yes, terrorists must be stopped and hunted down.

But blaming it solely on some religious reason is TOTALLY a missing the point.

America has been bombing/invading/killing anyone they want over the last 20 years...it's just that the friends/families of those that are getting killed are finally fed up and striking back (wrongly) the only way they know how...terrorism.


If you want the terrorism to stop...stop budding in all around the world where it is none of your business.
Because trying to kill them all will never work, for every one you kill, you will just turn them into martyrs and make terrorist recruitment that much easier.
 
Some people are not as ready to embrace racist and xenophobic depictions in media as Americans are. I mean, the history of some of these depictions goes a lot further than Charlie Hebdo. Cartoons have been used to demonize every group for the last century or so (Jews, Chinese, Africans, Russians). So maybe he's not as ready to embrace this freedom of speech because it sometimes hides far more sinister attitudes. All these folks ignorant of cartoons and demonization really shouldn't gang up on spangled for giving an opinion which isn't all that rare for anyone who understands what has hidden behind them in the past. Here are some examples:

The Irish:

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Meaning: Subhuman, simian-like, not like the beauty in the rest of Europe. Images like this were used to justify the mistreatment of the Irish for nearly 50 years in North America.

The Chinese:

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Meaning: Thieves, here to plunder the white man's wealth, undeserving of the white man's job. Images like this were used to deport millions of legal immigrants.

The black man:

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Meaning: White America's go to reference for ignorance, the lesser being, the white man's slave. Imagines like this were used to justify discrimination for 200+ years.

The Jew:

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Meaning: Europe, North America's and Islam's go to source for conspiracies. Images like this were used for centuries to justify the oppression of Jews wherever found. They really were the Western world's most hated people, and it was in part because of this demonization in media.

As you can all plainly see, some of these images hide something sinister behind them, people shouldn't turn a blind eye to the fact that they're depictions seeking to demonize and attack other cultures. I'm not in anyway supportive of what happened at Charlie Hebdo, but I won't pretend like what they were doing was harmless to race relations. If Al Sharpton's alleged doublespeak when it comes to race is hurtful to relations between cultures, and races, then so was Charlie Hebdo.
 
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it was your government WHO helped taliban gain power

Um, that's not true. What is true, is that Turkish Muslims murdered 1 million Armenians.
 
Some people are not as ready to embrace racist and xenophobic depictions in media as Americans are. I mean, the history of some of these depictions goes a lot further than Charlie Hebdo. Cartoons have been used to demonize every group for the last century or so (Jews, Chinese, Africans, Russians). So maybe he's not as ready to embrace this freedom of speech because it sometimes hides far more sinister attitudes. All these folks ignorant of cartoons and demonization really shouldn't gang up on spangled for giving an opinion which isn't all that rare for anyone who understands what has hidden behind them in the past.

What was/is Charlie Hebdo hiding? Please inform us.
 
EXACTLY!

As expected, instead of looking inward for some of the causes of this terrorism, people choose to look outward, blame others and turn militant.
Typical ignorant masses reaction.

Hitler turned average Germans against Jews. I wonder how long it will take western leaders to turn their ignorant citizens against decent Muslims?

These terrorists are sick f@cks. But the principle reason they are doing what they are doing is probably because of the horrible acts and murders of innocent civilians AND the propping up of horrific regimes the West (led by America) has done over the last 20 years or so.

And though I condemn any violence against innocent people...I do not blame those in the Middle East ONE LITTLE BIT for despising all things American.
American-Western actions are killing their children or allowing others to do the same.

People freak out about a beheading - yet Saudi Arabia does it ALL THE TIME and no one mentions it. This is hypocrisy.

Yes, terrorists must be stopped and hunted down.

But blaming it solely on some religious reason is TOTALLY a missing the point.

America has been bombing/invading/killing anyone they want over the last 20 years...it's just that the friends/families of those that are getting killed are finally fed up and striking back (wrongly) the only way they know how...terrorism.


If you want the terrorism to stop...stop budding in all around the world where it is none of your business.
Because trying to kill them all will never work, for every one you kill, you will just turn them into martyrs and make terrorist recruitment that much easier.

Yeah, they're really showing us!

In Pakistan school attack, Taliban terrorists kill 145, mostly children - CNN.com
 
What was/is Charlie Hebdo hiding? Please inform us.

Not hiding perse, they were more like... putting on display. That which they were putting on display was the casual French bigotry, racism and xenophobia towards all of those who aren't entirely French. The same Muslims who they had no problems slaughtering in Algeria, the blacks who they have no problem enslaving for years were the ones they casually attacked in their pages. It is a magazine that gave a voice to the mostly white academic class in France that finds no problem punching down. I won't pretend like they were some beacon for an important form of free speech, they are a racist and xenophobic publication whose entire raison d'être was the offense of other groups. Sure, their freedom of speech should be defended but it's not as if these people will be considered anything but racist and xenophobic a 100 years from now. Sort of like the cartoons I posted. :shrug:
 
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EXACTLY!

As expected, instead of looking inward for some of the causes of this terrorism, people choose to look outward, blame others and turn militant.
Typical ignorant masses reaction.

Hitler turned average Germans against Jews. I wonder how long it will take western leaders to turn their ignorant citizens against decent Muslims?

These terrorists are sick f@cks. But the principle reason they are doing what they are doing is probably because of the horrible acts and murders of innocent civilians AND the propping up of horrific regimes the West (led by America) has done over the last 20 years or so.

And though I condemn any violence against innocent people...I do not blame those in the Middle East ONE LITTLE BIT for despising all things American.
American-Western actions are killing their children or allowing others to do the same.
People freak out about a beheading - yet Saudi Arabia does it ALL THE TIME and no one mentions it. This is hypocrisy.

Yes, terrorists must be stopped and hunted down.

But blaming it solely on some religious reason is TOTALLY a missing the point.

America has been bombing/invading/killing anyone they want over the last 20 years...it's just that the friends/families of those that are getting killed are finally fed up and striking back (wrongly) the only way they know how...terrorism.


If you want the terrorism to stop...stop budding in all around the world where it is none of your business.
Because trying to kill them all will never work, for every one you kill, you will just turn them into martyrs and make terrorist recruitment that much easier.
Holy ****, are you backing the wrong horse. Blaming Extremist Fundamentalist terrorism ignores global historical reality. The have ALWAYS been out killing and a bombing and it had precisely jack squat to do with the US in the last 20 years, or any other time period for that matter. Muslim Fundamentalists believe in the literal blood and gore translation of the Koran.

Have you ever asked yourself what butchering a dozen school girls in Indonesia has to do with ME oil? Or entire villages in Africa? Or the attacks on schools that dare teach girls how to read?
 
In support of all victims of all islamic terrorist actions, should every single media outlet, publication, and private individual start printing/posting/publishing drawings of Muhammed?

Think about it. If every single person/business/group/corporation with a facebook page, instagram, snap chat, blog, forum, and web page spent a week posting nothing but pictures of Muhammed would it make a statement?

If every single non-muslim with the means to "protest" in this way banded together and posted pictures, it would number in the billions.

Would it make any kind of difference? Would it resonate with the Muslim world at all?

A world-wide grass-roots movement to collectively say "we're not going to submit to terrorist threats" and "we fully support the freedom of speech and freedom of the press/media". Would you participate?

Is it time for every single non-Muslim to post a cartoon/drawing of Muhammad in a collective gesture of support, and defiance against violence?
If the media really wanted to show solidarity with Charlie then this is what they should be doing. They should do it every time these animals threaten and or kill someone. This bull**** of showing censored images of Muhammad is nothing more than sucking the dicks of terrorists IE terrorist appeasement.The same rats who censor images of Muhammad would not show the same courtesy to other religions.Heck the animals murdering innocent people over ****ing cartoons would not show any respect to other religions.

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It's predictable at times like this that leftist America-haters will show their true colors. Watch how they run this country and its culture down, and it becomes clear they don't have much more time for America, or for Western Civilization in general, than Muslim jihadists do. It's clear some of them are also driven by lack of nerve--they imagine that if they bow and do as these subhuman jihadist bastards tell them, they will be nice to us.

For anyone who hasn't read it, I'd again like to recommend an excellent and eye-opening book by Andy McCarthy, "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America." The "grand jihad" is taken from a phrase in a strategy document written some years ago by one of the many Muslim Brotherhood front groups operating in the U.S. CAIR, though this was not its document, is probably the best known of these fronts. As Secretary of State, one prominent leftist, Hillary "The Belle of Benghazi" Clinton, was heavily involved with various Islamist organizations in efforts to find ways to suppress speech offensive to Muslims. To someone who knows about all that, it's not surprising this President sent only our Ambassador to the recent demonstration in Paris. B. Hussein Obama, in his heart of hearts, probably thinks those smart-mouthed white people at Charlie Hebdo got just what they were asking for.

Mrs. Clinton also was heavily involved in President Pinocchio's foreign policy misadventures in Egypt and Libya. Her main advisor in engineering the replacement of Hosni Mubarak with the Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohammed Morsi--himself since replaced by Mr. Sisi--was Huma Abedin, the wife of the scandalized exhibitionist Anthony Weiner. Several members of Abedin's family in Egypt had close, longstanding connections with the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic supremacist groups. Just the sort of person I'd expect to see serving a President who has bowed and scraped to the Muslim world ever since he first took office. Mr. Obama has the same sympathetic attitude toward Islamic extremists that most leftists do. He carries on an half-hearted, ineffective campaign against them to look like he's doing something. But in fact by showing weakness to them--our sworn enemies--he has invited another 9/11--or worse.
 
If the media really wanted to show solidarity with Charlie then this is what they should be doing. They should do it every time these animals threaten and or kill someone. This bull**** of showing censored images of Muhammad is nothing more than sucking the dicks of terrorists IE terrorist appeasement.The same rats who censor images of Muhammad would not show the same courtesy to other religions.Heck the animals murdering innocent people over ****ing cartoons would not show any respect to other religions.

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I certainly hope you're not suggesting that the jihadists who destroyed those ancient Buddhas that had been carved into the stone in Afghanistan were showing disrespect for any other religion! Since when is firing artillery rounds at ancient religious art anything but a show of tolerance and respect?
 
Is sacred, not almost.

The only thing that makes it almost sacred, it may not incite violence or call for violence, not be racist and it has to be true/based on fact.
 
Holy ****, are you backing the wrong horse. Blaming Extremist Fundamentalist terrorism ignores global historical reality. The have ALWAYS been out killing and a bombing and it had precisely jack squat to do with the US in the last 20 years, or any other time period for that matter. Muslim Fundamentalists believe in the literal blood and gore translation of the Koran.

Have you ever asked yourself what butchering a dozen school girls in Indonesia has to do with ME oil? Or entire villages in Africa? Or the attacks on schools that dare teach girls how to read?

Please. Don't blasphemers deserve to die? Those dogs who were slaughtered were enemies of the Faith. I find your suggestions that the acts you mention are anything worse than an ardent expression of religious belief to be very offensive. And as I'm sure you'd agree, speech which offends anyone should never be tolerated.
 
It is in Australia and most civilized nations. Are you a fan of racist warner bros cartoons or something? You think that the cartoon 'Jungle Bunnies' is an artistic work of creative expression? Then why did America ban these cartoons?

edit- And isnt France and America encouraging bullying with this freedom propaganda?

Is it cool for children to draw offensive cartoons of unpopular classmates that they do not like? Can we do that in the workplace now? Is that what you American and French are trying to say? That bullying is cool now? Isnt Charlie Hedbo a bully? His cartoons were designed to be offensive, hurtful and provocative right? So kids that copy his behaviour will be heros? Can children draw cartoons making fun of students that are Muslim? Is that cool in America? Is that what you are trying to say? Well, I disagree and I do not think that French and American society should promote bullying or make heros out of bullies.

Actually, I'm a big fan of the WWII Warner Bros. cartoons. Thanks for asking. And nobody anywhere has a right not to be offended. People need to grow up, especially, it seems, Australians.
 
The only thing that makes it almost sacred, it may not incite violence or call for violence, not be racist and it has to be true/based on fact.

Free speech always has some regulation with you people.
 
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