View Poll Results: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Charlie Hebdo cover printed in Turkish daily - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

    A Turkish daily has published cartoons from the latest edition of the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, which came under a deadly attack last week, as Turkish police took tight security measures around the Turkish newspaper's headquarters.

    Secularist Cumhuriyet newspaper published four pages of Charlie Hebdo cartoons on Wednesday, the same day the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo came out.
    Turkey appears to want to take part.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I meant this guy:

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    I assign based on what I see. Their brothers and sisters in the PQ in Canada tried to tear the province apart a few months ago over the French language, religion and race. They were voted out of office recently because they were simply seen as a bunch of racists trying to wash the history of both Quebec and Montreal with chamois leather. So I most definitely understand the type of French racism we're discussing here and I simply don't buy the French brand. Here, I welcome you to read this so you can see why I don't have any sympathy for SOS Racisme and French Republicanism:

    The core of Quebec



    France's cultural elite wants it both ways, they ban the veil, which women can CHOOSE to wear as part of their free speech, and then they want to act offended when others aren't respectful of their freedom of speech. That's not the concept of free speech I'm willing to stand beside. One which picks and chooses which speech is acceptable and which isn't.
    All of that is certainly worthy of discussion, but it really doesn't have anything to do with how differently you and I perceive the humor and satire in Charlie Hebdo. I grew up with this stuff. Charlie Hebdo, Coluche, l'équipe du Splendid, all pushed the enveloppe when it comes to crass and irreverent humor. If you've ever seen any of Coluche's standup comedy or any of the early plays and movies by the Splendid guys and if you were to take select bits out of context you would no doubt think them the worst racists and xenophobic assholes. All of them were anything but. They were a mirror that reflected the ugliest of French society back to a country that saw and still sees them as legends.

    But the larger point I've been trying to make is that even if I thought they were racist or some other trait I disaprove of, I would still support their right to express their views. I would still be Charlie.
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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    I don't see a need for an intentional "flood" of this.

    The day after, rerunning one of their cartoons or doing something like this...yeah, I get the point there.

    But to me, there'd need to be some kind of point to it beyond "Yeah, **** you crazy terrorists!". Do I think people should not draw Muhammed in instances where it is relevant and fits what they're doing? Absolutely not. But just like I wouldn't suggest someone putting "God Damn" all over the place for no other reason other than it'll piss some people off, I wouldn't suggest putting all kinds of images of muhammed for the simple purpose of pissing people off. Doesn't mean you can't; I just would find that act childish.

    So for me...it would largley be the reason WHY more so than the actual act to determine how I felt about it.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Turkey back-stepping now....

    Turkey bans Charlie Hebdo cover online - CNN.com

    (CNN)A Turkish court has banned Web pages that show the new cover of Charlie Hebdo, the country''s semiofficial news agency Anadolu reported Wednesday.

    The move came as Deputy Prime Minister Yalcin Akdogan wrote on Twitter, "Those who are publishing figures referring to our supreme Prophet are those who disregard the sacred." Such a move is "open sedition and provocation," he added.

    Turkey is home to 82 million people, 99.8% of whom are Muslim, according to the CIA World Factbook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    After four years, American cartoonist Molly Norris still in hiding after drawing Prophet Mohammed - CNN.com

    (CNN)Molly Norris drew a cartoon four years ago that depicted the likeness of Mohammed on several items, including a tea cup, a thimble and a domino.

    She received her first death threat within days.

    One was a fatwa that came from radical and influential cleric Anwar al-Awlaki -- an American-born imam who lived in Yemen -- who said Norris was a "prime target" for execution for creating blasphemous cartoons.

    Norris had kicked off controversy in April 2010 with a cartoon published online about an imaginary group called "Citizens Against Citizens Against Humor" that proposed an "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, thank you! In turn, I commend you for not engaging in silly crystal ball type of arguments. I mean, it's one thing to claim that the Founders knew that someone with any of our leans would come along. It's another to believe that any use of the term "the common people", is an attempt to bring in "class struggle". I do wonder whether the poster who suggested such a thing even understood what that meant. This discussion has nothing to do with class struggle, so why would he interpret the term common people to be doing just that? His obsession with the term is worrying, to say the least.
    There is always so much irony around! Anyway, thanks again.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/op...hemy.html?_r=0

    Still, this religious nationalism is guided by religious law — Shariah — that includes clauses about punishing blasphemy as a deadly sin. It is thus of vital importance that Muslim scholars courageously, even audaciously, address this issue today. They can begin by acknowledging that, while Shariah is rooted in the divine, the overwhelming majority of its injunctions are man-made, partly reflecting the values and needs of the seventh to 12th centuries — when no part of the world was liberal, and other religions, such as Christianity, also considered blasphemy a capital crime.
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    The only source in Islamic law that all Muslims accept indisputably is the Quran. And, conspicuously, the Quran decrees no earthly punishment for blasphemy — or for apostasy (abandonment or renunciation of the faith), a related concept. Nor, for that matter, does the Quran command stoning, female circumcision or a ban on fine arts. All these doctrinal innovations, as it were, were brought into the literature of Islam as medieval scholars interpreted it, according to the norms of their time and milieu.

    Tellingly, severe punishments for blasphemy and apostasy appeared when increasingly despotic Muslim empires needed to find a religious justification to eliminate political opponents.
    Islam is in serious need of reform.
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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Every motive has a source:

    The militants who terrorised France for three days



    Yup, its blowback alright.
    That doesn't quite account for killing a cartoonist due to blasphemy, or the three remaining actors, two of which who were radicalized by renowned and self professed jihadists now does it?

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    In support of all victims of all islamic terrorist actions, should every single media outlet, publication, and private individual start printing/posting/publishing drawings of Muhammed?

    Think about it. If every single person/business/group/corporation with a facebook page, instagram, snap chat, blog, forum, and web page spent a week posting nothing but pictures of Muhammed would it make a statement?

    If every single non-muslim with the means to "protest" in this way banded together and posted pictures, it would number in the billions.

    Would it make any kind of difference? Would it resonate with the Muslim world at all?

    A world-wide grass-roots movement to collectively say "we're not going to submit to terrorist threats" and "we fully support the freedom of speech and freedom of the press/media". Would you participate?

    Is it time for every single non-Muslim to post a cartoon/drawing of Muhammed in a collective gesture of support, and defiance against violence?
    What do you see this accomplishing, exactly?

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