View Poll Results: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe we should ridicule any government that has such idiotic restrictions on speech
    Maybe then those governments/people can ridicule any government that does not have any reasonable restrictions.
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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Maybe then those governments/people can ridicule any government that does not have any reasonable restrictions.
    there are almost no reasonable restrictions on free speech



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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Obviously you do not understand the difference between free speech and horrendous abuse of free speech.

    Just you because you people, don't want to get it, does not mean that a lot of countries and a lot of people have to bow down to your views of a sacred uninhibited free speech. With great power comes great responsibility IMHO, and with freedom of speech comes the right of others to limit that speech that goes against other equally important rights that people have.

    See? Most people know that there is more to this world than free speech with no limitations. You people who think speech is the one big right that goes about all other rights is sacrosanct, forget that freedom of speech is just one of the basic human rights.

    I know exactly what is the difference between freedom of speech and horrendous abuse of free speech, sadly you think some things are free speech whereas I see them as a horrendous and horrible abuse of free speech.
    Why do I have to revere someone else's idol? That's ****ing ridiculous.
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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Obviously you do not understand the difference between free speech and horrendous abuse of free speech.

    Just you because you people, don't want to get it, does not mean that a lot of countries and a lot of people have to bow down to your views of a sacred uninhibited free speech. With great power comes great responsibility IMHO, and with freedom of speech comes the right of others to limit that speech that goes against other equally important rights that people have.

    See? Most people know that there is more to this world than free speech with no limitations. You people who think speech is the one big right that goes about all other rights is sacrosanct, forget that freedom of speech is just one of the basic human rights.

    I know exactly what is the difference between freedom of speech and horrendous abuse of free speech, sadly you think some things are free speech whereas I see them as a horrendous and horrible abuse of free speech.
    We ​understand that freedom of speech excludes speech that could cause physical harm. Aside from that, all speech is free, even if it pisses someone off.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why do I have to revere someone else's idol? That's ****ing ridiculous.
    There you go, fellow American!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
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    Paris attackers shouted 'we have avenged the prophet': Police on Charlie Hebdo office attack - The Times of India

    Yeah, clearly a case of blowback from foreign policy Your reflexive deflection to the West and foreign policy is again noted.
    Every motive has a source:

    The militants who terrorised France for three days

    At his trial in 2008, Kouachi said he was spurred to act by the abuse of detainees by US troops at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, but was relieved he did not have to go through with the trip.
    Yup, its blowback alright.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Maybe then those governments/people can ridicule any government that does not have any reasonable restrictions.
    That's how freedom of speech works. People can ridicule anything tey want, no matter how stupid their comments may be.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there are almost no reasonable restrictions on free speech
    Well, that is where you and I disagree.

    Reasonable restrictions:

    1. Hate Imams
    2. extremist racist texts and extremist anti-Jewish texts
    3. Westboro baptist church, I have no problem with denying them their free speech if it at a funeral of a US soldier

    And those are just a few that I think are very reasonable, but only if the courts agree that what was done was a breach of the reasonable restrictions on misuse of freedom of speech. Don't get me wrong, in the privacy of someone's home that person is free to say whatever he thinks about gays, blacks, Jews, Muslims, catholics, protestants, republicans, democrats, but as soon as he goes out in public and says things that violate the law, then that person can be brought into court and be prosecuted for it. If the courts decide that according to the law it is free speech then that person is free to go. If he has violated the law, then he can get a fine or a suspended sentence for it.

    But this must not be seen as something that is done to quash free speech but only done if it so egregiously violates the most basic rights that are also guaranteed under the constitution, then and only then must a judiciary intervene. Not as a tool by the government to silence people who disagree with them, but by courts as the defender of all the rights mentioned in our constitution.
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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why do I have to revere someone else's idol? That's ****ing ridiculous.
    You do not have to revere anything, especially as I was not aware you were "forced to have to revere someone else's idol".

    BTW, the same goes the other way around too. It is ****ing ridiculous that I should have to revere someone else's idol.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Should we flood the world with images of Muhammed?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We ​understand that freedom of speech excludes speech that could cause physical harm. Aside from that, all speech is free, even if it pisses someone off.
    As is your right, and it is the right of other countries to have some other definition of what free speech should be. Even if that pisses someone else off.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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