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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Yes. Let it be regulated and taxed instead of that money from that industry going to criminals.
    I oppose local, state and federal government going into the pimp business, which is EXACTLY what "regulate and tax" it means. That's exactly what a pimp does - tell prostitutes - enforced by threats and punishment - how to behave and taking a cut of what the prostitute is paid - ie collecting the pimp-tax.

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    It won't stop what's already happening, but it would lower the amount of women entering into prostitution via pimps and brothels.

    Admittedly it's not something I'm very familiar with. But with my idea, there's less incentive to go to a prostitute with needle tracks and missing teeth because you'd be able to find one that's better looking on the internet, operating on her own initiative.
    The government would be a pimp too. And have the police backing up their collective their pimp fee/tax, reminding me of Mr. Gardner in NYC - putting a chock hold on a prostitute because she isn't registered and isn't pay the government-pimping-agency it's cut.

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government would be a pimp too. And have the police backing up their collective their pimp fee/tax, reminding me of Mr. Gardner in NYC - putting a chock hold on a prostitute because she isn't registered and isn't pay the government-pimping-agency it's cut.
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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is great, however many of these prostitutes are also junkies who depend on these pimps for drugs. Trying to remove one from the other is simply not feasible unless you actually try and reprogram the people already doing it.



    Your solution simply has no contact with the actual dynamics of prostitution. Take a stroll down any red light district in Canada and tell me how many of those junkies on the street you feel would actually abide by "market forces".
    Most messages on this thread have no connect to reality in terms of prostitution.

    Not 1 in 1000 would show up to have their prostitute mug shot for their prostitution license, nor fill out forms to obtain their prostitution license, no pay the government its tax-pimp cut, nor show a the clinic for STDs testing - none of it.

    There would be a bizarre, limited application pimping company that springs up here and there, likely owned by the sheriff and for which a fair number of the prostitutes would be drug conviction women out on probation and working for the sheriff's company, of which the sheriff both takes his percentage and collects the county's pimp-tax share.

    No, those would could not truthfully tell courts anymore they can find a job to pay their fines. The Sheriff's prostitution company is coming.

    The level of corruption by putting local governments into the pimping business is almost too long to list.

    Still another poll question.. "With the morality issue set aside to legalize prostitution - regulated and taxes - should women in jail be granted work release if they will work as prostitutes to pay their fines and court costs?"

    And, since its legal, should prostitution in prisons and jails be part of the commissary system to offset some prison and jail expenses?

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The government isn't involved in my idea.
    No "regulate and tax it?"

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I see that you aren't interested in facts or the truth here. You're seeing what you want to see, even when it's not there.
    No, he's not. He's discussing the topic in terms of reality, not slogans.

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Most messages on this thread have no connect to reality in terms of prostitution.

    Not 1 in 1000 would show up to have their prostitute mug shot for their prostitution license, nor fill out forms to obtain their prostitution license, no pay the government its tax-pimp cut, nor show a the clinic for STDs testing - none of it.

    There would be a bizarre, limited application pimping company that springs up here and there, likely owned by the sheriff and for which a fair number of the prostitutes would be drug conviction women out on probation and working for the sheriff's company, of which the sheriff both takes his percentage and collects the county's pimp-tax share.

    No, those would could not truthfully tell courts anymore they can find a job to pay their fines. The Sheriff's prostitution company is coming.

    The level of corruption by putting local governments into the pimping business is almost too long to list.

    Still another poll question.. "With the morality issue set aside to legalize prostitution - regulated and taxes - should women in jail be granted work release if they will work as prostitutes to pay their fines and court costs?"

    And, since its legal, should prostitution in prisons and jails be part of the commissary system to offset some prison and jail expenses?
    My opposition of it comes from the same side yours is. I simply don't trust the police to deal with prostitution. Hell the NYPD already gets in **** every year or so when one of their officers is caught with drugs and they're supposed to be the law. Just imagine when some hick town sheriff decides he's going to turn a few dollars here and there on the town's junkies? Every other year we hear about stuff like this. DC cop caught in prostitution scandal. LAPD caught in prostitution scandal. The same people getting caught doing it are the ones who are supposed to have shut it down. You're telling me that's who I'm supposed to trust? Nah, I'd rather see it be decriminalized and with women being offered a valuable skill OR jail time. That's far better than simply letting them off into the streets to find joes.
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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Look at it this way (because this is how it is):


    Government is going to be a LOT bigger in the future whether you or anyone else likes it or not. Prostitution is already an industry. It's really a perfect example of an industry worth literally tens of billions of dollars in tax revenue that is currently going to the underworld. Will the underworld still control it even if it is taxed? Possibly, but so what? The underworld controls numerous industries that are taxed, it's not as if that's unique really. If the industry is going to exist it should be taxed simply put. Any other argument is illogical. Women who are going to prostitute their bodies are already doing so whether it's legal or illegal. It might as well be taxed.
    What do you say the government pimping-cut (tax) should be? 10% 25% 50%?

    What if the prostitute didn't register? Didn't pay the cut? Didn't look at the ID of the customer for age (also giving her his name)? Imprisonment? A criminal record? Even pimps don't have that much power over a prostitute.

    There is exactly NOTHING some people shouldn't be taxed. No issue that isn't solved by a tax. No plan of any merit unless it adds taxes.

    It's official - many on this thread literally want to tax sex.

    Seriously, want PIMP-CUT do you think the government should require a prostitute to give to the government? I will comment that not 1 in 100 prostitutes pay any pimp anything. That also is a myth. So for most, the government being the pimp over prostitutes is the only pimp those women would have.

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    My opposition of it comes from the same side yours is. I simply don't trust the police to deal with prostitution. Hell the NYPD already gets in **** every year or so when one of their officers is caught with drugs and they're supposed to be the law. Just imagine when some hick town sheriff decides he's going to turn a few dollars here and there on the town's junkies? Every other year we hear about stuff like this. DC cop caught in prostitution scandal. LAPD caught in prostitution scandal. The same people getting caught doing it are the ones who are supposed to have shut it down. You're telling me that's who I'm supposed to trust? Nah, I'd rather see it be decriminalized and with women being offered a valuable skill OR jail time. That's far better than simply letting them off into the streets to find joes.
    Really, can you imagine what small town sheriffs and police chiefs would do with this?

    My view is to simply keep it a minor night-in-jail or pay the fine misdemeanor for the women to keep it off the street always from kids to the extent possible, and to various degrees more serious for pimps - from minor to felony if violent to seriously a felony if involving minors, kidnapping, drugging, violent-extortion, etc.

    Do you think they REALLY believe junkies and the occasional-to-get-$20 or a fix BJ hookers are going to show up for their prostitution-mug shot for their hooker license? BUT, if there was $$$$ to be made out of it by law enforcement and others in government? The level of corruption and crimes against women, extortion, blackmail, shakedowns - and blackmailing and extorting their customers - would go off the chart.

    And it would also often link into drug trafficking and just about every other possible way to corrupt law enforcement and local government.

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    Re: Do you support the legalization of prostitution?

    There is a steady flow of young women thru city and county jails for drug charges, DUI, minor assault, Driving on expired license etc, for which whether charges are major, minor or dropped - and what level of bond if any is set - and terms of work release etc - all are entirely at the discretion of the sheriff's or police department.

    There would be would be no manner to show quid-pro-quo for charges being dropped or reduced - and it just happens the woman is working prostitution giving higher-ups within the Sheriff's or police department for this. They already do that on occasion to force young women to being narc/undercover for the police - with accusations the Sheriff's department is working both sides - dealing thru such as her and basically arresting the competition thru her.

    Only there is no more her. They found her dead in her car in the middle of an intersection. 30 .223s thru the car.

    The sheriff's department fought a civil suit by the family over discovery for over a year, before admitting she was "working undercover for them" and they have arrested 2 people, alleging they shot her for being a narc. However, in the latest twist, divers stumbled across the AR15 she was killed with (bullet matched) under a bridge - and guess what? The AR15 traced back to Sheriff's department inventory. That is going on here now.

    If sheriffs and police departments could get into the prostitution business - which WILL happen if there is a legal form of it - the corruption overall and abuse, extortion, blackmail against women, customers and within the whole system would go off the chart. It probably would be a real problem in large cities. But it would be out of control in many smaller towns, cities and rural areas.

    Your daughter gets arrested with pot and a pot pipe and driving drunk? And she's pretty? They could keep her in jail a very long time. Or release her tomorrow - with no manner of proof this was in exchange for them working for them part time? Would women do that to prevent CPS taking their children? Losing their job? Being branded a felon for a drug charge? Absolutely. Nor would there ever be a way to prove quid pro quo. It would just be unspoken understood.

    A woman gets caught - or even just accused of - giving a BJ for $20? Under the current system she'll do a few nights in jail at the worse. On the "legal system," she could be forced in to becoming a full time prostitute - and then extorting her with exposing that's what she's doing too. It would be horrific.

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