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Is the Congressional Black Caucus relevant any more?

Is the Congressional Black Caucus relevant any more?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 38.9%

  • No

    Votes: 11 61.1%
  • Total voters
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MildSteel

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Don't hear to much about those folks these days. Man it's a shame the condition black folks are in. Pitiful.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yes, I believe so.
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Well I would like to think that is true, but it just doesn't appear to me to be the case. They are so irrelevant that they could not even prevent Bill Clinton, a Democrat, from throwing their constituents under the bus. If you show how they are, I would like to see that.
 
Relevant? Not in their current form. Perhaps if they tried to hold people accountable for their own actions instead of portraying a segment of society as the victims who need special laws and treatment to make them equal, then they maybe they would be relevant.
 
Relevant? No. Racist? Yes
 
Baralis said:
Relevant? Not in their current form. Perhaps if they tried to hold people accountable for their own actions instead of portraying a segment of society as the victims who need special laws and treatment to make them equal, then they maybe they would be relevant.
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So they should publicly whip people who don't have a job?
 
It is a Caucus that has no place in a civilized society that helps keep racism alive. No Caucus should be made for ones skin color. They are only going to get more and more irrelevant because "black" people will eventually become harder and harder to determine because we'll all be mixed and knew genetic groups will arise.
 
Yes. They are irrelevant. Ironically, universal Democrat Party support among African Americans means they can be safely screwed over in favor of Hispanics (which are much more in play, competition-wise).
 
cpwill said:
Yes. They are irrelevant. Ironically, universal Democrat Party support among African Americans means they can be safely screwed over in favor of Hispanics (which are much more in play, competition-wise).
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Talk about being moved to the back of the bus if not throw under it.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
Talk about being moved to the back of the bus if not throw under it.
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:shrug: They don't want to let in conservative blacks in Congress - they have become nothing more than "democrats who put a racian sheen on the exact same material". That's not valuable to the DNC anymore (for picking up black votes, anyway).


Remember when they tried to use them as props during the Obamcare votes, and it totally backfired? That's where they are today.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: They don't want to let in conservative blacks in Congress - they have become nothing more than "democrats who put a racian sheen on the exact same material". That's not valuable to the DNC anymore (for picking up black votes, anyway).


Remember when they tried to use them as props during the Obamcare votes, and it totally backfired? That's where they are today.
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That is why we must fight amnesty, and we can get the black members of Congress on our side by the fact it will destroy their position and job security it is a win/win for us..
 
not relevant, not needed....

there's no good reason to have a caucus based on skin color...

based on ideas , ideology, beliefs,... sure.... skin color?... nope.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
That is why we must fight amnesty, and we can get the black members of Congress on our side by the fact it will destroy their position and job security it is a win/win for us..
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:shrug: I don't know if they can be persuaded to vote in their group interest on this one. With a black man in the White House, it seems like none of them want to make black unemployment a political issue, fearing he'd be blamed. If it were a white republican? They might be on board. It'll be interesting to see when the 2016 race shapes that dynamic. Perhaps conservatives can reach out to them arguing that it would let them shape the primary race in their party.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I don't know if they can be persuaded to vote in their group interest on this one. With a black man in the White House, it seems like none of them want to make black unemployment a political issue, fearing he'd be blamed. If it were a white republican? They might be on board. It'll be interesting to see when the 2016 race shapes that dynamic. Perhaps conservatives can reach out to them arguing that it would let them shape the primary race in their party.
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Jeb/Mitt will not win, I promise you they will not.

No one will back a moron or a moderate 2 time loser...
 
AmericanSpartan said:
Jeb/Mitt will not win, I promise you they will not.

No one will back a moron or a moderate 2 time loser...
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No - but Jeff Sessions might. He's been pointing out that mass low-skill low-wage immigration hurts our low-wage high-unemployment workforce for some time.
 
cpwill said:
No - but Jeff Sessions might. He's been pointing out that mass low-skill low-wage immigration hurts our low-wage high-unemployment workforce for some time.
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I love that man and we are lucky him, he needs to run for the White House, I promise you he would get the union vote, the blue collar vote, the unemployed vote.
 
Interesting discussion.
 
Perhaps blacks should team up with hispanics, instead of allowing themselves to be played against one another.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
I love that man and we are lucky him, he needs to run for the White House, I promise you he would get the union vote, the blue collar vote, the unemployed vote.
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Martin Luther King Jr invoked in amnesty fight



...The ad is the latest anti-Obama move by his critics of immigration reform and follows recent polls showing that African-Americans and other minorities worry that illegals are taking jobs, housing and healthcare they should get....

]The group’s spokesman, Joe Guzzardi, said, “Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. promoted equal treatment for all Americans. But President Obama is putting the interests of immigrant workers ahead of American workers who want jobs.”

He added, “the president’s policies are disproportionately harming the most vulnerable American workers who, more often than not, are minority Americans....
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Myself I think it's a bit... heavy handed.
 
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MildSteel said:
Perhaps blacks should team up with hispanics, instead of allowing themselves to be played against one another.
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Inasmuch as the two are coherent groups that have group interests, they are trapped in a zero sum game. Bringing in large numbers of low-skill, low-education hispanics means that our black populace will continue to face high (in some cases, stratospheric) unemployment. From a coalitional standpoint, they have little to offer each other.
 
MildSteel said:
Don't hear to much about those folks these days. Man it's a shame the condition black folks are in. Pitiful.
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Wow. Your poll shows 85% (118 of 135 votes) say they are still relevant. Any one of those 85% care to explain how they are still relevant?
 
MildSteel said:
Don't hear to much about those folks these days. Man it's a shame the condition black folks are in. Pitiful.
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The black caucus could make or break a certain House Majority Whip's career.
 
Moot said:
The black caucus could make or break a certain House Majority Whip's career.
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:raises eyebrow: Ah. You mean because they are all Republican, and therefore the House Leader has to listen to them about who he does or does not support for that position?


The CBC aren't going to effect Scalise.
 
cpwill said:
:raises eyebrow: Ah. You mean because they are all Republican, and therefore the House Leader has to listen to them about who he does or does not support for that position?


The CBC aren't going to effect Scalise.
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It's the federal government, not small town Texas and I don't think even moderate white republicans want to be represented by a "David Duke without the baggage" in congress. Little did he know that would become his baggage. lol


As restitution for his racist past, the black caucus want Scalise to introduce a bill to fix the Voting Rights Act. That would be fun to see.
 
Moot said:
It's the federal government, not small town Texas and I don't think even moderate white republicans want to be represented by a "David Duke without the baggage" in congress. Little did he know that would become his baggage. lol

As restitution for his racist past, the black caucus want Scalise to introduce a bill to fix the Voting Rights Act. That would be fun to see.
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:roll: Good luck with your blatant, desperate thread jack attempt. :yawn:
 
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