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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Let's look at an earlier example. Suppose that a person sees statistics that show blacks, relative to their numbers, are disproportionately involved in crime. Suppose that person is walking down the street and robbed by a group of black men. Would not that person be justified in avoiding groups of black men in the future? Isn't that discrimination that has some justification?
    Let's say that 86% of white folks are murdered by another white person - should whites avoid white folks?

    Let's say that 93% of black folks are murdered by another black person - should blacks avoid black folks?

    Statistically, you are far safer by avoiding contact with those of your own race.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Let's say that 86% of white folks are murdered by another white person - should whites avoid white folks?

    Let's say that 93% of black folks are murdered by another black person - should blacks avoid black folks?

    Statistically, you are far safer by avoiding contact with those of your own race.
    So you are saying that racial discrimination is sometimes justified. Right?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So you are saying that racial discrimination is sometimes justified. Right?
    No, I am saying that caution is in order at all times.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No, I am saying that caution is in order at all times.
    Is not caution, in this instance, discrimination based on race? If the person in the scenario avoids a group of black men, because based on what he has read and his experience he feels that he is in danger from groups of black men, how can that not be discrimination based on race?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Is not caution, in this instance, discrimination based on race? If the person in the scenario avoids a group of black men, because based on what he has read and his experience he feels that he is in danger from groups of black men, how can that not be discrimination based on race?
    How is avoiding someone discriminating against them? In your example, what was denied to that group of black men - the pleasure of your proximity?
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How is avoiding someone discriminating against them? In your example, what was denied to that group of black men - the pleasure of your proximity?
    In the example it is discrimination, although it is not illegal, because the person is avoiding them based on the fact that they are black. Isn't it justified for him to do so based on what he has read and his experience?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Is not caution, in this instance, discrimination based on race? If the person in the scenario avoids a group of black men, because based on what he has read and his experience he feels that he is in danger from groups of black men, how can that not be discrimination based on race?
    Seriously?
    If I avoid driving around in a neighborhood because my chances of being shot are increased tenfold, I am discriminating? Am I obligated to put myself in a dangerous situation just so that people won't think I am discriminating against them? Really? This is pretty laughable. Omg.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So you are saying that racial discrimination is sometimes justified. Right?
    Every single person in this thread knows that you have an ulterior motive. It would be helpful if you started by making an actual argument instead of trying to lead people into making the argument you obviously want them to make.

    You actually remind me of another poster that used be here : Wake. He would start threads in a similar manner. Hm.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Seriously?
    If I avoid driving around in a neighborhood because my chances of being shot are increased tenfold, I am discriminating? Am I obligated to put myself in a dangerous situation just so that people won't think I am discriminating against them? Really? This is pretty laughable. Omg.
    If you avoid driving around a neighborhood because it is a black neighborhood and you therefore think that your chances of being shot are increased tenfold, you are discriminating based on race. It is not illegal, but it is discrimination nonetheless. The question is this, is such discrimination sometimes justified?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Not at a legal level....
    It depends, doesn't it? I mean, we have, to name a few, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (which one would have thought would have changed its name by now to the National Association for the Advancement of African Americans, or NAAAA). How do you advance colored folk unless you discriminate? And what about the United Negro Collage Fund? How do you legally allocate college funds to negroes unless you discriminate? Then there's the Miss Black America Beauty Pageant. What do you think the chances of a snowflake-skinned Scandinavian are of winning that one? So it's disingenuous and hypocritical for liberals to claim on the one hand that discrimination is bad and unjustified when white people do it but fine and dandy when blacks do it. And when a white person points out the hypocrisy of it he's branded as a bigot and hatemonger.
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