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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Everything has a cost. But the cost of an open policy of legal discrimination is one we cannot accept. The results - slavery, genocide, different types of systematic abuse are unacceptable.
    That's ok, but what about at the individual level, is it really possible to NOT discriminate IF the differences do indeed exist?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That's ok, but what about at the individual level, is it really possible to NOT discriminate IF the differences do indeed exist?
    We all exist in a society with others. There is no such thing as simply discriminating against an individual because of their race or nationality and having it protected by law and expecting it to stop with just an individual. Its a false premise.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Maybe a niche porn.For example if you are running a website that only has black chicks on it then obviously you are not going to hire any white, Indian or whatever else porn actress.
    You would have to have White or any other non-Black chicks apply and be told "we don't hire anyone but Black chicks here" for there to be discrimination. Even then, discrimination would be difficult to prove.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We all exist in a society with others. There is no such thing as simply discriminating against an individual because of their race or nationality and having it protected by law and expecting it to stop with just an individual. Its a false premise.
    Let's look at an earlier example. Suppose that a person sees statistics that show blacks, relative to their numbers, are disproportionately involved in crime. Suppose that person is walking down the street and robbed by a group of black men. Would not that person be justified in avoiding groups of black men in the future? Isn't that discrimination that has some justification?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Let's look at an earlier example. Suppose that a person sees statistics that show blacks, relative to their numbers, are disproportionately involved in crime. Suppose that person is walking down the street and robbed by a group of black men. Would not that person be justified in avoiding groups of black men in the future? Isn't that discrimination that has some justification?
    Is that an example of what we have come to call discrimination in the law or is that an example of what others would call street smarts?
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Is that an example of what we have come to call discrimination in the law or is that an example of what others would call street smarts?
    When I speak of racial discrimination, I am not necessarily referring to discrimination in the strict legal sense, I am talking about a broader sense. So isn't that discrimination that has some justification?
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    When I speak of racial discrimination, I am not necessarily referring to discrimination in the strict legal sense, I am talking about a broader sense. So isn't discrimination that has some justification?
    People discriminate every day and it is necessary to survive. One must discriminate between food which is healthy and nourishing and consuming something which is the opposite. So let us not overuse an overly broad meaning of the word DISCRIMINATE.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    People discriminate every day and it is necessary to survive. One must discriminate between food which is healthy and nourishing and consuming something which is the opposite. So let us not overuse an overly broad meaning of the word DISCRIMINATE.
    Indeed they do discriminate. Furthermore, don't you think that the person who avoids groups of black men in the future is practicing racial discrimination that has some justification?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Indeed they do discriminate. Furthermore, don't you think that the person who avoids groups of black men in the future is practicing racial discrimination that has some justification?
    I do not consider an act like avoidance on a street that you provided as an example of the discrimination we are talking about as it is overly broad and does not apply to the context of the discussion.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do not consider an act like avoidance on a street that you provided as an example of the discrimination we are talking about as it is overly broad and does not apply to the context of the discussion.
    It is not overly broad because racial discrimination is to discriminate based on race. It is not illegal for the person to think, there is a group of black men, they may rob me, therefore I will avoid them.

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