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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How many,are they threatening, personal experience, location, are their others on the street- are you alone, and on and on.
    If you read statistics that indicate that blacks disproportinately commit crime and you had been robbed by a group of blacks, when you saw a group of blacks that you did not know, would you not consider the fact that they are black?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    If you read statistics that indicate that blacks disproportinately commit crime and you had been robbed by a group of blacks, when you saw a group of blacks that you did not know, would you not consider the fact that they are black?



    What exactly is your lab rat question?
    What is the purpose of the OP?
    What information are you looking for.Do you need confirmation on something?
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Now we are getting somewhere. In your example, the assessment of "risk" is based on race. So do you think it is possible that sometimes racial discrimination is justified?

    BTW, I wish I had thought of that example. It is a good one and illustrates why the question is indeed very difficult.
    I suppose it is possible - but it would be situational. (Law Enforcement searching for serial killers, for example, focus on white males. They do not focus on a race/gender dynamic when searching for car thieves, because the situation does not suggest it in the latter like it does in the former). Limited-time decisions dealing with risk to others seems like it can, in some situations, justify discrimination. I cannot think of a decision that would justify discrimination based off of group IQ. Can you?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    What is the purpose of the OP?
    What information are you looking for.Do you need confirmation on something?
    I answered the question that is the subject of this thread as honestly as I could.

    My question to you is, what do you think the purpose of the OP is? What information do you think I am looking for? Do you think I need confirmation on something? Would you ask those questions if I were not black? Are your questions in themselves a form of racial discrimination that is justified?

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I answered the question that is the subject of this thread as honestly as I could.

    My question to you is, what do you think the purpose of the OP is? What information do you think I am looking for? Do you think I need confirmation on something? Would you ask those questions if I were not black? Are your questions in themselves a form of racial discrimination that is justified?
    How in hell would I know what color you are?
    How are my questions a form of discrimination?
    I asked questions, did not needed questions on top of questions.
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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I suppose it is possible - but it would be situational. (Law Enforcement searching for serial killers, for example, focus on white males. They do not focus on a race/gender dynamic when searching for car thieves, because the situation does not suggest it in the latter like it does in the former). Limited-time decisions dealing with risk to others seems like it can, in some situations, justify discrimination. I cannot think of a decision that would justify discrimination based off of group IQ. Can you?
    I am not saying that it is sometimes justified, but that indeed may be possible. As far as IQ goes, if you are taking a class on the calculus of vector fields, who would you be more prone to go to for reliable help, if you didn't know anything about any of the people in the class, an Asian person or a black person? Now to be totally honest, I don't believe mathematical aptitude makes someone intelligent. I am just saying that to give an example that MAY be easily understood.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How in hell would I know what color you are?
    How are my questions a form of discrimination?
    I asked questions, did not needed questions on top of questions.
    Ok. Sorry to bother you.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I am not saying that it is sometimes justified, but that indeed may be possible. As far as IQ goes, if you are taking a class on the calculus of vector fields, who would you be more prone to go to for reliable help, if you didn't know anything about any of the people in the class, an Asian person or a black person? Now to be totally honest, I don't believe mathematical aptitude makes someone intelligent. I am just saying that to give an example that MAY be easily understood.
    See, the artificiality of the situation is problematic - I'd be most likely to go to a TA, or the professor. Beyond that, I would go to someone I know.

    I think you are additionally speaking to unconscious discrimination rather than conscious or deliberate discrimination.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    See, the artificiality of the situation is problematic - I'd be most likely to go to a TA, or the professor. Beyond that, I would go to someone I know.
    Yes, but depending on the class you may not know someone who could give a reliable answer. What if the TA isn't available and you needed some help right away and another person in the class is your only chance? I understand it's a hypothetical, but it's relevant. That was one I thought of off the top of my head.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think you are additionally speaking to unconscious discrimination rather than conscious or deliberate discrimination.
    I am including unconscious and unintentional discrimination, although I am not restricting it to that.

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    Re: Is Racial Discrimination Sometimes Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Yes, but depending on the class you may not know someone who could give a reliable answer. What if the TA isn't available and you needed some help right away and another person in the class is your only chance? I understand it's a hypothetical, but it's relevant. That was one I thought of off the top of my head.
    I would probably either ask the person sitting next to me, or, if we weren't sitting in class, who seemed most open and available. The last decision might play into stereotypes, but I wouldn't be able to observe it and certainly wouldn't be able to decide to perform the act of discrimination because of it.

    I am including unconscious and unintentional discrimination, although I am not restricting it to that.
    Since we are looking at the question of justification, however, the two are unlike. Deliberate discrimination is the result of a decision-making process that can be said to be just or unjust. Unconscious discrimination (we tend to think that good-looking people are smarter) is not the result of a decision-making process that can be said to be just or unjust.

    This is particularly true if you are attempting to bring collected ethnic statistics (such as IQ scores) to bear.

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