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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Yes- why

    No Why

    If yes- what countries would they be deployed to?

    With the recent attacks in Paris I see a number of people that want to go in and take them out.
    You opinion on what the West should do.
    Large scale deployments of troops will not work.
    Look to Iraq and Afghanistan and lessons learned.
    Place ground troops where? In Paris?

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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    We're not doing it out of the blue, we're doing it as the only solution to terrorism. These people cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be convinced that they're wrong, they aren't afraid of dying, their purpose is to convert the world by force to their religion and nothing less is acceptable to them. If we stop bothering them, they won't stop. The only thing that will stop them is the death of every single extremist Muslim on the planet. Before doing that, I'd rather try something a little less drastic. Nothing less drastic than killing their families has been shown to work.
    How does killing their entire family work?
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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    We were at war with Iraq and Afghanistan, which when the war started was governed by the Taliban. We are not at war with any terrorist organization at this time. We are occasionally using drones to kill random people and we are dropping bombs on selected targets in Syria. These two activities are not war. They are a confused foreign policy which will not commit itself to facing our enemies and only involve itself in symbolism. We would rather drone innocents to death than risk taking a prisoner and sending them to Gitmo because that would interfere with the administrations intention to release the terrorists there and close the base.
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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Place ground troops where? In Paris?
    If Paris I will go.
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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How does killing their entire family work?
    It may not, it depends on the specific situation, but a terrorist who doesn't care about his own life may very well care about the lives of those closest to him. The threat that if he continues, that it won't just be his sacrifice, but everyone he knows and loves as well, may be enough to stop these animals. We just have to be willing to carry through on the threat to show we're serious.
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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    I've changed my mind on this issue. I now support a military solution. I favour the surgical, special-forces approach over full-scale invasion, though.
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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If we're going to do it, we should either do it right (massive bombing followed by well-supported ground troops slaughtering the opposition by the tens of thousands), or not do it at all. Half ass measures rarely accomplish much.
    Well said. The folks in the Middle East have just as much interest in kicking their ass as anybody else. If they need help, let them do it or pay to have it done.

    Myself, I'd just as soon nuke the whole goddamn place and let Allah sort them out. But I realize that position isn't very popular. The U.S. cannot continue being the world's policemen extinguishing squirmishes here and there. If we get into it, it should all or nothing. Go big or stay home.

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    Re: Should the West place troops on the ground to take out terrorists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If we're going to do it, we should either do it right (massive bombing followed by well-supported ground troops slaughtering the opposition by the tens of thousands), or not do it at all. Half ass measures rarely accomplish much.
    That won't work. You might as well throw rocks into a pond to catch a bass. Yeah, you might get lucky, but mostly you're just going to tear up the pond. We need to be targeting the leaders, communications and financiers. Yes, that means at times we're going to have boots on the ground to make sure that when gather intel, that we can protect those who give the intel (what we were doing when we drove AQI out of Iraq and gutted it's leadership and what allowed ISIS/ISIL to capture Iraq when we stepped back too soon). We need to remove the strength of these kind of orgs. by taking out their leaders and financiers and silencing their voices (coupled with expanding the voices of the anti-violence moderate Muslims). You can bomb all the cities you want, all that will do is provide pictures of dead kids and bombed out schools and hospitals to drive recruitment (like what happened with Abu Ghraib). We need to de-motivate people to join, not provide more motivation. If you use your tactic, the leaders will rarely be touched and for every one you kill, 3 more will join as a result.
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