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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    Rational: No
    Likely: Yes
    and what do you base the thought that its likely on
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    I personally think some of them will quit doing it because they dislike the idea that gay people can get married.

    But nobody would be forced.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and what do you base the thought that its likely on
    The likeliness that litigation against churches who refuse to perform marriages for particular demograhics will be succesful.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    The likeliness that litigation against churches who refuse to perform marriages for particular demograhics will be succesful.
    thats not really an answer

    what would the "likeliness" of the litigation be based on?
    hell what legality would the litigation be based on?
    and why would it be successful when all the others litigation was not?
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats not really an answer

    what would the "likeliness" of the litigation be based on?
    hell what legality would the litigation be based on?
    and why would it be successful when all the others litigation was not?
    1. I assume you mean the likeliness of success? In the civil law cases I've observed, it's usually up to the judge to decide.
    2. Discriminatory practices would be my best bet.
    3. I may be wrong, but I think we can observe a trend were hurt feelings being grounds for litigation, is becoming more common.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    1. I assume you mean the likeliness of success? In the civil law cases I've observed, it's usually up to the judge to decide.
    2. Discriminatory practices would be my best bet.
    3. I may be wrong, but I think we can observe a trend were hurt feelings being grounds for litigation, is becoming more common.
    1.) again not really an answer, what civil law cases do you think make this likely
    2.) what discriminatory practices? there are none that the church is participating in that are ILLEGAL
    3.) really theres a trend over cases be based on hurt feelings and winning? can you provide ONE example i dont know of any.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    It's never gonna happen, we can stop the fear mongering now.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Don't even try the "no true Christian" fallacy. If you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, you are a Christian, pure and simple.
    I'm not, in fact I agree with you. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian, but a lot of Christians don't see it that way. There is no definition of "true Christian" that makes any sense.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) thats easy, because ZERO businesses have been FORCED to participate in gay weddings or go out of business
    2.) religious freedom is exactly the reason why its silly to believe churches will be forced, they wont because of religious freedom
    but to speak more directly of your comment, no freedom works like you just stated . . .speech, religions etc
    Unless they make wedding cakes. Hahahah

    But I don't think it's likely that churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages, not in the short term anyway. It's certainly not reasonable to force them to perform same sex marriages.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) not trying to debate you, im simply asking you what you meant since you were unclear
    2.) i want no answer, i want you to be clear what you meant because what you wrote doesn't make it clear lol
    3.) good move since i am looking for clarity
    4.) that doesnt really answer anything either but ok, i guess you werent looking to be clear
    Only #3 and 4 were addressed to you. And what's not clear about "by the standard you use to judge, you shall be judged"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm not, in fact I agree with you. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian, but a lot of Christians don't see it that way. There is no definition of "true Christian" that makes any sense.
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