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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    1.)are you just trying to be a ass with this thread? i mean really?
    2.)you can say no one was forced to "participate" but the definition of participation is where a lot of people would disagree with you.....yes?
    3.) some of the population believes that any "participation" in a gay wedding goes against their beliefs? do you agree with that statement?
    4.) instead of the customer taking their business elsewhere, either the customer or one of their "friends" starts the discrimination process
    5.) so what happens to the shop owner? is he left alone? is he allowed to stay in business?
    6.) or does the government in some form tell him either to participate, or else?
    7.) not sure what your definition is of "force" or "coercion" but those meet mine
    8.) maybe highly religious people shouldnt be in businesses that have marriages as part of their business
    9.)florists, decorators, bakeries, rental halls, etc
    10.) for some people it is no big deal.....and they welcome the business
    11.) for others, it is a big deal.....and they would rather shut down their business than be "forced" to participate in something they find so repulsive
    12.) it used to be that businesses were free to associate and do business with who they wanted
    13.)for some, i understand the need for the change in the law......hospitals, public conveyance, inns & hotels, etc
    14.)for the others, i dont.....there are more than one florist that can be used.....or one bakery
    15.)end of rant...
    1.) nope I was just curious to see if there were really that many people that could believe somethign so stupid and illogical
    2.) no it wouldn't, in facts law, definitions and everything else is on my side.
    3,) yes im sure they do, that doesnt give them any special privileges to break the law or infringe on others rights
    4.) actually if you are referring to a business domino number one would be people stupid enough to CHOOSE to break the law and be criminals
    5.) same thing that happens to anybody that break the law and infringe on the rights of others, there are consciousnesses
    6.) government enforces ALL of our rights and law and this consensuses for breaking them, just like the rapist, embezzler, murder, assaulter, thier etc
    7.) well your definition doesnt matter to law and facts, there those people CHOOSE to break the law so its there fault if there is consciousness. I mean fine then by your defintion murders and rapist are also "forced" or "coerced" then too LMAO
    8.) there are lots of highly religious people in business that have marriage in their business they just arent stupid enough to break the law or dumb enough to think its allowed cause of their "feelings" and "belifes"
    9.) yep plenty of those people are highly religions and do just fine cause they have somethign called civility and dont choose to break the law, they are able to live harmoniously in a society with laws and rights
    10.) yes normal people
    11.) then they are stupid fro opening up the business and thinking they get special treatment. Im a christian, i would never think that i get to run my business how ever i want simply because of my religion, thats moronic and i respect the law and my fellow Americans rights.
    12.) they still are
    13.) rights and laws are for some they are for us all
    14.) nope I dont get special treatment based on my religion, i have to follow the same rules and laws as EVERYBODY lol
    15.) well try again when you have somethign that actually matter to rights and laws
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It is the local law in the OP story.
    You called the law criminal. There are anti-discrimination laws on the books in states and localities across the country, none of them have been ruled as criminal. If you believe that anti-discrimination laws are criminal, perhaps you should find an island and found the country KluKluxKlanistan.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nope I was just curious to see if there were really that many people that could believe somethign so stupid and illogical
    2.) no it wouldn't, in facts law, definitions and everything else is on my side.
    3,) yes im sure they do, that doesnt give them any special privileges to break the law or infringe on others rights
    4.) actually if you are referring to a business domino number one would be people stupid enough to CHOOSE to break the law and be criminals
    5.) same thing that happens to anybody that break the law and infringe on the rights of others, there are consciousnesses
    6.) government enforces ALL of our rights and law and this consensuses for breaking them, just like the rapist, embezzler, murder, assaulter, thier etc
    7.) well your definition doesnt matter to law and facts, there those people CHOOSE to break the law so its there fault if there is consciousness. I mean fine then by your defintion murders and rapist are also "forced" or "coerced" then too LMAO
    8.) there are lots of highly religious people in business that have marriage in their business they just arent stupid enough to break the law or dumb enough to think its allowed cause of their "feelings" and "belifes"
    9.) yep plenty of those people are highly religions and do just fine cause they have somethign called civility and dont choose to break the law, they are able to live harmoniously in a society with laws and rights
    10.) yes normal people
    11.) then they are stupid fro opening up the business and thinking they get special treatment. Im a christian, i would never think that i get to run my business how ever i want simply because of my religion, thats moronic and i respect the law and my fellow Americans rights.
    12.) they still are
    13.) rights and laws are for some they are for us all
    14.) nope I dont get special treatment based on my religion, i have to follow the same rules and laws as EVERYBODY lol
    15.) well try again when you have somethign that actually matter to rights and laws


    so as i guessed, you did start this thread just to be an ass

    no problem

    we ALL understand the laws.....

    but some of us actually try to see the others perspective....and why something may be important to someone

    you apparently just want to rub salt in wounds.....nice for you.....glad you are having fun doing so

    i should have known better.....my bad

    i'm gone
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    1.)so as i guessed, you did start this thread just to be an ass
    2.) no problem
    3.)we ALL understand the laws.....
    4.)but some of us actually try to see the others perspective....and why something may be important to someone
    5.)you apparently just want to rub salt in wounds.....nice for you.....glad you are having fun doing so
    6.)i should have known better.....my bad
    7.)i'm gone
    1.) nope wrong again just to see how many people thought this topic was real or dont care about rights. Ill add you to that list
    2.) yes its no problem you were wrong
    3.) obviously you dont or you simply dont care about the law and rights, pick one
    4.) I see thier perspective they want to break the law and infringe on others rights, so do many criminals should they all get free passes?
    5.) nope wrong again I simply care about our rights and the constitution and laws. If that is rubbing salt in the wounds of bigots and criminals there a very easy solution . . dont break the law or move to another country that doesnt respected rights
    6.) yes you should have none better to think i dont care about our rights and support bigotry and or breaking the law
    7.) later
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    How 'bout that?

    I was right all along.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/west/2...-marriage.html
    Fail. This was about a couple who were only ordained to perform wedding ceremonies as part of their business. And they were not forced or even legitimately threatened with force to perform wedding ceremonies. They in fact knew exactly what needed to be done with their business to avoid any question of whether the particular law applied to them or not, then decided to file a lawsuit claiming nonsense about them being forced to marry gays.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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