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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    So you have no proof that Jesus endorsed interracial marriage either, but they are ok in your mind. Or does no mention of something by Jesus only matter if it is those icky gays?
    I know of nothing that forbids interracial marriage, whereas, the Bible strictly forbids homosexual behavior so you can take it up with the author if you like.

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    The Armenian church refuses inter faith weddings. Many rabbis refuse to do interfaith weddings too.
    Oy vey!

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    The point is that churches are not forced to have a wedding for any one they choose. They can discriminate based on anything they so choose.
    I’ve not argued that. I am not arguing the present at all. I am saying that things are changing and in my opinion it will simply be a matter of time when churches will be forced to perform homosexual marriages or lose their tax exempt status.

    I just Googled “perform gay marriage or lose tax exempt status” and got 1,680,000 hits so apparently I’m not the only one pondering this notion.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    I know of nothing that forbids interracial marriage, whereas, the Bible strictly forbids homosexual behavior so you can take it up with the author if you like.



    Oy vey!



    I’ve not argued that. I am not arguing the present at all. I am saying that things are changing and in my opinion it will simply be a matter of time when churches will be forced to perform homosexual marriages or lose their tax exempt status.

    I just Googled “perform gay marriage or lose tax exempt status” and got 1,680,000 hits so apparently I’m not the only one pondering this notion.
    I'm sure there are plenty of chicken littles crying "the sky is falling", but it's not. If a church can legally turn away people based on race or religion which are covered in the civil rights act, then why would they be forced to marry a homosexual couple that are not even federally protected?
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Ever try to enter a Mormon temple and you aren't a Mormon? Churches can refuse to make anyone a member of their clergy. Based on anything, race, sex, disability, sexuality, whatever. Do you think the Westboro baptist lye anyone in their church they haven't vetted? Many churches have refused to marry people based on race and religion.
    I've actually been in many Mormon temples and I have always been well received even though I believe their founder is a false profit. In fact, I've never been turned away at the door of any religious building.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I've actually been in many Mormon temples and I have always been well received even though I believe their founder is a false profit. In fact, I've never been turned away at the door of any religious building.
    Most people cannot just simply walk through the doors of a Mormon temple, most are not open to the public.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most people cannot just simply walk through the doors of a Mormon temple, most are not open to the public.
    Yes they are. In fact, they go around door to door in short sleeve white shirts and cheap ties begging people to walk through the doors.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I've actually been in many Mormon temples and I have always been well received even though I believe their founder is a false profit. In fact, I've never been turned away at the door of any religious building.
    Don't confuse our Temples with our meetinghouses. The services at the latter are indeed open to the public, and everyone is welcome. Once a Temple is dedicated, only members in good standing are allowed inside; though, as a matter of practice, we usually have a new Temple open to public visitors in the brief time after construction is completed, before it is dedicated.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Yes they are. In fact, they go around door to door in short sleeve white shirts and cheap ties begging people to walk through the doors.
    Not the same places. Temples are different than where their normal, open to the public services are held. It's sort of like Scientology in that regard, the deeper you invest, the further in you get.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Sorry. I meant I was unaware of anyone denying to perform interracial, black, race-related marriage these days. Of course this was a problem in the past that went all the way to the Supreme Court in Loving vs. Virginia.



    Which is to say that the Catholic Church will marry previously divorced people.



    Possibly. I know that Bible teaches against it (2 Corinthians 6:14). But that is something quite different from “refusing” to marry people of different faiths and I’ve never heard of anyone refusing to do it. Regardless, interfaith is hardly as controversial as homosexual marriage.
    Churches refuse to wed people of faiths not belonging to that church all the time. Heck that's one of the reasons my mother got married in a Methodist rather than Catholic Church, because my father is Methodist, not catholic.

    Interfaith is just ignored because it is legal. If same sex couples were getting legally married despite many not approving of such couples for decades, even centuries, no one would be even suggesting that churches would be forced to marry them.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Churches refuse to wed people of faiths not belonging to that church all the time. Heck that's one of the reasons my mother got married in a Methodist rather than Catholic Church, because my father is Methodist, not catholic. Interfaith is just ignored because it is legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If same sex couples were getting legally married despite many not approving of such couples for decades, even centuries, no one would be even suggesting that churches would be forced to marry them.
    And yet people are doing that very thing. As I told wolfsgirl, I just Googled “perform gay marriage or lose tax exempt status” and got 1,680,000 hits so apparently I’m not the only one pondering this notion. In my opinion, it’s just a matter of time.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    I'm sure there are plenty of chicken littles crying "the sky is falling", but it's not. If a church can legally turn away people based on race or religion which are covered in the civil rights act, then why would they be forced to marry a homosexual couple that are not even federally protected?
    Perhaps if you had bothered to Google the same thing you would have noticed that there are some very serious suggestions about doing exactly what I've described and not all of those are crying "the sky is falling".
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