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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No, it has not. By definition, marriage is only between a man and a woman. To apply the term to a pairing between a man and a man, or between a woman and a woman, will always be a lie.
    Great, then, you don't perceive anyone to be changing the definition of marriage, because you don't believe that definition can be changed. You also must believe the institution of marriage is not under attack, because two women marrying isn't really a marriage, so there's no attack.

    Right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    its irrational because theres no steps in law that can be taken to do so unless the constitution is amended.
    One would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The error is in putting government above the people, in holding that it is government that has the authority to impose rules that violate the people's freedom, and then putting the burden on the people to prove that they should be allowed to exercise certain freedoms. It should be the other way around. The people's freedom should come first, and the burden should be on government to prove that it has a legitimate and necessary reason to intrude thereon.
    So, yes, you do think a business should be allowed to put up a "NO BLACKS" sign. You want to, among other things, repeal the Civil Rights Act. Ok. Just say that. Stop hiding behind all these other charades. Just say "I want businesses to be allowed to discriminate for any reason."

    However, it is absolutely comical that you make this post. You know why?

    You are arguing to restrict the freedom of the people. You want the government to restrict a private legal contract between homosexual couples. What's your "legitimate and necessary reason" to ban same-sex marriage?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    One would think.
    yes one would think

    im been asking and nobody can provide one factual move based on legality that can make it happen.

    the best part is, those on the illogical conspiracy theory side think its a trick . . .



    but so far . . . . nothing
    its not, i honestly want to know if there's one out there because i cant see any besides a constitutional amendment/changing the 1st. and if theres one out there i would gladly fight against it and be worried about it
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    And on the flip side only allowing one particular religious icon and forbidding others is not respecting others. See the Oklahoma 10 commandments issue, or the bibles only handed out in Florida.
    It is an all or nothing issue. Why should only one religion (generally Christian) be represented on public land and not all others?
    Let them all be. It is all part of not infringing upon the free exercise thereof. Not allowing the ten commandants or anything else is infringing on the free exercise of.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Yet no church is forced to marry interracial couples, or black couples, or previously divorced couples, or people of other religions.

    What CHURCH was forced to pay for abortions?
    I am personally not aware of any church denying to marry interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. Nor am I aware of any Scriptures that prohibit the marrying of interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. However, the Bible does prohibits homosexual behavior (and that would include--by default--homosexual marriage).

    And it is primarily the Catholic Church that has been fighting with Obama with regard to abortion and Obamacare but that is another debate.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    I am personally not aware of any church denying to marry interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. Nor am I aware of any Scriptures that prohibit the marrying of interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. However, the Bible does prohibits homosexual behavior (and that would include--by default--homosexual marriage).

    And it is primarily the Catholic Church that has been fighting with Obama with regard to abortion and Obamacare but that is another debate.
    You don't see any reason, but people did. 50 years ago, there were a ton of people making religious arguments against same-sex marriage, and there were plenty of churches that would refuse to perform the ceremony.

    They had their own justification in scriptures, just like you do. Me, I've never seen evidence that Jesus Christ ever said one word condemning homosexuality.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    also for the record its:
    47 no (81%)
    8 yes (14%)
    3 other (5%)


    but the 8 havent provided how yet
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    1.)I am personally not aware of any church denying to marry interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. Nor am I aware of any Scriptures that prohibit the marrying of interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. However, the Bible does prohibits homosexual behavior (and that would include--by default--homosexual marriage).
    LMAO it happens all the time in this country and im fine with it cause its LEGAL
    probably 1000s of couples a day are denied based on race, sexual orientation, not religious enough, age differences, wrong religions, being divorced already etc etc

    hell i had a friend that had to go to 5 churches to get married because they want to get marriage under his wife's specific domination and he was "religious" enough for the first 4 churches, the last one made them wait and him take classes.

    just in 2012
    Mississippi Church Rejects Black Wedding - ABC News

    typically this stuff doesnt make news because there is no news, its legal lol
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    I am personally not aware of any church denying to marry interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. Nor am I aware of any Scriptures that prohibit the marrying of interracial, black, previously divorced couples, etc. However, the Bible does prohibits homosexual behavior (and that would include--by default--homosexual marriage).

    And it is primarily the Catholic Church that has been fighting with Obama with regard to abortion and Obamacare but that is another debate.
    Then you are ill informed or in denial. Refusals to perform interracial marriages pop up in the news every couple of years. There was one within the last two years where a black couple was denied a marriage in the church. The Catholic Church will only perform a marriage for a divorced catholic if they had the first marriage officially annulled by the Catholic Church. Many religions refuse to wed interfaith couples.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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