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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The kneeling soldier was not a specific soldier. And it is being replaced by simply a kneeling soldier, as most places have. Plus, it wasn't in a cemetary. And part of the issue was the Christian flag being flown over it.

    North Carolina City Removes Statue of Soldier Kneeling Before Cross | Military.com

    The other cross was still just a cross on public land, not in a cemetary.

    U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down
    I don't think it matters, it still isn't right. It is the anti religious having no respect for the religious. It is wanting everyone not to be religious at all.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    The religious symbols on headstones are not an issue and there are a large number of cemeteries that are not run by cities -- states and the federal government often operate veteran's cemeteries individually or in partnership. It is not the government that picks the religious symbol that appears on the sailor/soldier/airman/marines headstone. It is the individual themselves or the next of kin after their passing.

    There is wide range of emblems available so that no one religion has preference -->> Available Emblems of Belief for Placement on Government Headstones and Markers - National Cemetery Administration



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    Yeah, and those aren't even under any real threat, but there have been some conservative nut balls putting out for years that the ACLU is fighting for the removal of these crosses, something that has no evidence to support for the at least 6 years it has been being put out, and in fact something the ALCU denies they have ever tried to do. And you can bet, that if the ACLU felt it was a problem, they wouldn't lie about their feelings on this.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then as public land, they cannot endorse any particular religion. In that particular case, unless they were actively restricting other religious symbols, they weren't actually breaking the law, they cannot show preference, they have to allow any religion to be equally represented or no religion to be represented. I can't speak to that case because I don't know the situation though.
    Everything was alright until one person decided to ruin it for everyone else. No respect from folks today.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't think it matters, it still isn't right. It is the anti religious having no respect for the religious. It is wanting everyone not to be religious at all.
    Sure it matters because there is a difference in crosses on public land and crosses in cemetaries, over/as part of tomb stones.

    And this isn't about not wanting anyone to be religious at all, but rather not having the government appear to endorse any specific religion.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Everything was alright until one person decided to ruin it for everyone else. No respect from folks today.
    "Everyone was perfectly fine with all the hazing until someone had to ruin it for everyone and show how humiliating and degrading it really was but people wanted to do it to fit in."
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    I've been on political message boards since 2004, no I don't remember any bru-ha-ha about cemeterieis having to remove crosses in California or anywhere else in this country.




    Sorry, you are the one that claimed crosses were being removed from cemeteries, the burden is on you to substantiate your claims.

    It's typically considered poor message board etiquette to ask someone else to find proof of the things you claim.


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    Another poster said they was on public land. I suppose it won't be a year or two when all the crosses are removed from Arlington. All I can do is wax when the time was people respected other people and didn't try to enforce their views on others via the law. So be it, I think it is a good time to be old so I won't see where this country is headed to become a reality. Anyway, time to get the grand kids to be so I can take them to school in the AM. Take care.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Sure it matters because there is a difference in crosses on public land and crosses in cemetaries, over/as part of tomb stones.

    And this isn't about not wanting anyone to be religious at all, but rather not having the government appear to endorse any specific religion.
    The government doesn't endorse any religion what so ever. I am not taxed to support any religion or no laws have been passed to say I must be this or that religion. But judges have ruled you can't show your religion in certain places and nixed the practices of it. The government has endorsed atheism. The first amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercises thereof. But judges have certainly prohibited the free exercise thereof in favor of endorsing atheism.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Another poster said they was on public land. I suppose it won't be a year or two when all the crosses are removed from Arlington. All I can do is wax when the time was people respected other people and didn't try to enforce their views on others via the law. So be it, I think it is a good time to be old so I won't see where this country is headed to become a reality. Anyway, time to get the grand kids to be so I can take them to school in the AM. Take care.
    I don't think you need to worry about waxing anytime soon.

    snopes.com: ACLU and Cemetery Headstones

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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I don't think you need to worry about waxing anytime soon.

    snopes.com: ACLU and Cemetery Headstones
    Give it a couple of years and it will come to pass. I got to run. Wife is getting the baseball bat. Until next time.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Another poster said they was on public land. I suppose it won't be a year or two when all the crosses are removed from Arlington. All I can do is wax when the time was people respected other people and didn't try to enforce their views on others via the law. So be it, I think it is a good time to be old so I won't see where this country is headed to become a reality. Anyway, time to get the grand kids to be so I can take them to school in the AM. Take care.

    I've walked through Arlington to pay my respects to fallen comrades in arms. I saw Crosses, Stars of David, Mormon symbols, and Native American symbols, I saw Buddhist symbols and Hindu symbols. Even a symbol for an Atheist.


    The likelihood that someone is going to get crosses removed from Arlington is "slim" and "none" and Slim left town.


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