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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    February. Thanks for the information.
    I doubt if the Court will have anything interesting to say though. If the imminent danger of violation of rights the suit claimed to exist are gone, the court won't have to rule on the "meat" of the case.

    Thanks for the reasonable conversation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well good thing thats not going on, so as a christian im completely safe
    I have heard of persons being coerced into participation in gay marriage and punished, where they refused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I have heard of persons being coerced into participation in gay marriage and punished, where they refused.
    not in this country you most certainly have not lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not in this country you most certainly have not lol
    In which country are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    In which country are you?
    united states of america
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I have heard of persons being coerced into participation in gay marriage and punished, where they refused.

    I've never heard of someone being forced to marry someone of the same sex.



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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    I've never heard of someone being forced to marry someone of the same sex.



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    I am sure you have heard of people being forced into heterosexual marriage though
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I have heard of persons being coerced into participation in gay marriage and punished, where they refused.
    Are you referring to for-profit businesses that hold out to the public being forced to comply with public accommodation laws?
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) correct
    2.) again there would be no FORCE and that would only be successful if they CHOOSE to break the law, become criminals and violate people rights like that bakery did

    laws are laws and rights are rights

    saying they are forced is like saying rap laws could force people to be virgins, its simply disingenuous

    no business has been forced to participate in a gay marriage
    VERY easy solution, dont choose to break the law and be a criminal and one wont face the consequences
    I thought we were seeing if there was precedent in some way that could be compared to making churches perform same sex marriage ceremonies against their conscience. Everything you said COULD be applied to churches who refuse to perform same sex marriage in violation of their conscience and the Bible.

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    "...again there would be no FORCE and that would only be successful if they CHOOSE to break the law, become criminals and violate people rights like that Church or Christian Minister did. Laws are laws and rights are rights. Saying they are forced is like saying rap laws could force people to be virgins, its simply disingenuous...no Church or Christian minister has been forced to participate in a gay marriage. VERY easy solution, dont choose to break the law and be a criminal and one wont face the consequences..."

    The Bakery owner was a person of faith and their faith dictated if they participated in a same-sex marriage ceremony, THEY would be in sin against God. The government ruled they had to anyway so they simply closed their doors instead of committing what they believed to be sin. Although they have not yet been seen in America, you can take the same circumstances and apply them to those authorized to authenticate marriage licenses on behalf of the state and force Christian ministers to preside over same-sex marriages or give up their privilege of marrying members of their own congregations because not doing same-sex marriages would be a criminal act of discrimination.
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    Re: Do you believe the idea of churches being forced to marry people is likely/ration

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    united states of america
    Then you are wrong. People have been punished for not participating or assisting in gay matrimony festivities. As a matter of fact the various incidents were discussed here in the forum.

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