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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    It depends on how you frame the question. Has terrorism gotten worse while Obama has been in office? Certainly, there's no denying it. Was he responsible for it? No, I don't think he was, certainly there isn't much he could have done about most non-U.S. terrorism and only an idiot would say otherwise.
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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    In other words its time to jump around dancing?
    Here ya go USC. Oh and I was wrong.....its not 56% its 58%. But if I was you I wouldn't explain out any correlation. KnowwhatImean.


    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years.....


    Seth Jones, the associate director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at the RAND Corp., released a report yesterday called "A Persistent Threat: The Evolution of al Qa'ida and Other Salafi-Jihadists." In a WSJ op-ed yesterday about the report, Jones reports, without mentioning Obama's repeated claims of having al Qaeda "on the run," that

    "The number[s] of al Qaeda and other jihadist groups and fighters are growing, not shrinking.... From 2010 to 2013 the number of jihadist groups world-wide has grown by 58%, to 49 from 31; the number of jihadist fighters has doubled to a high estimate of 100,000; and the number of attacks by al Qaeda affiliates has increased to roughly 1,000 from 392.".....snip~

    Terrorism Flourishes During Obama Years

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    First of all, I do not consider refraining from occupying foreign lands a form of appeasement. Furthermore, the policy of being hard on terrorism has not worked for 15 years now. We still have these massive events such as the terror in France. We have been fighting for so long and yet these style attacks are still prevalent. Maybe, just maybe, it is time that we try a new avenue of combating this problem. If the world was getting safer under the policies that you propose we use, then I might understand the continued use of them, but as you argue yourself, terrorism has flourished. Not only under Obama, who you argue to be soft on terror, but under Bush as well, who I assume you consider hard on terror.
    When the people from that land have already decided we are at war and attacked us-leaving them be is indeed appeasement. I hear from some libertarians that they would be all about defense and that an attack would be met with force-but then we get people like Ron Paul who have a naive and utopian view-who think perhaps that electing a libertarian will somehow improve things-in the mean time we will be attacked with no substantive response-and as that libertarian is voted out his/her polices will go with them. Radical islamists will hate us the entire time-and the only thing that will have changed is 4 years of soft responses-in other words a cue for our enemies to attack (much like word powers and terrorists are emboldened under weak leaders like Obama).

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The Obama aspect is irrelevant. It's been building and flourishing a lot longer than he's been a politician, let alone President. And no, I don't think it would be substantially less under someone different. **WE**, as a collective society, have lost our will to stand up and do what needs to be done to stem it.
    The point is Obama's new direction has demonstrably failed, and arguably while emboldening our enemies.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I voted yes-Obama is seen as a weak leader who appears to prefer playing domestic politics rather than combat terror. ISIS only exists in Iraq because Obama lost the peace there for votes.

    Its a shame but it will take a new POTUS (Republican) to clean up Obama's mess.
    If we are going to start in this manner. Isis would only exist if George W. Bush had not been under the insane notion that invading Iraq would lead to a new peaceful united country. Isis did not start because of Obama but because of the emerging of the Arabian spring where a lot of oppressive governments where overturned in a peaceful uprising of the population of those countries. Because of that, the people in Syria thought it was time to revolt themselves. That has nothing to do with Obama (in the negative or positive) and extremist groups joined the fight against the Syrian government and when that was no longer a goal they could achieve, they went to start their own little country (ISIS).

    And a new Potus (democrat) will be just as powerless to solve this crisis as Obama is. You cannot stop an extremist mind with bombing runs. The only thing that will stop Isis is troops on the ground from the Muslim countries around there and a new dawn in the minds of Muslims that this kind of extreme Islam is damaging them and the image of their faith.
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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The point is Obama's new direction has demonstrably failed, and arguably while emboldening our enemies.
    What new direction? Obama has been doing the same thing that every other POTUS has done since the end of WW2.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    What new direction? Obama has been doing the same thing that every other POTUS has done since the end of WW2.
    Appeasement. Its Obama's style and apparently they dont respect it.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Appeasement. Its Obama's style and apparently they dont respect it.
    What exactly should he have rather done? Invaded more countries? Kept more American troops in harms way helping a populace that doesn't want us here? Please, elaborate what your grand strategy would be.

    By the way, at a 4% yes vote, even republicans don't agree with you. Sounds like you're just making up things as you go along and no one here agrees with you.
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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    What exactly should he have rather done? Invaded more countries? Kept more American troops in harms way helping a populace that doesn't want us here? Please, elaborate what your grand strategy would be.

    By the way, at a 4% yes vote, even republicans don't agree with you. Sounds like you're just making up things as you go along and no one here agrees with you.
    4% ot what? Links n sht.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    4% ot what? Links n sht.
    Are you like special or something? I referenced your own poll at the top of the page. Holy ****.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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