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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He wrote the recuiting posters for Al Qaeda and sent 100's of thousands of targets for jihadists into their backyard so yes you could say he created them.
    Right! Its Bush's fault! :lamp

    The terrorists, on the other hand, don't have anything to with the...terrorism.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right! Its Bush's fault! :lamp

    The terrorists, on the other hand, don't have anything to with the...terrorism.
    Are you denying that Bush told the terrorists to "bring it on" and they did and are still bringing it on?

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Are you denying that Bush told the terrorists to "bring it on" and they did and are still bringing it on?
    More Bushist excuses! I love it!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Johnson resigned because of botching the war and Nixon simply did the same thing in spades. Both parties are equally responsible for that debacle. Bush is entirely responsible for the creation of the most terrorists recruits in history because of his invasion of Iraq. We will be fighting those recruits for decades..
    The Taliban had contacts with terrorist groups all over the place. Even before Bush became President.

    The question here asks if terrorism has flourished under BO. Not Bush.....just BO and his Time.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More Bushist excuses! I love it!
    That's what makes you part of the problem.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Taliban had contacts with terrorist groups all over the place. Even before Bush became President.

    The question here asks if terrorism has flourished under BO. Not Bush.....just BO and his Time.
    That's the problem with history, actions have consequences that often exceed a Presidents term. You can't talk about the rise of terror without Bush as much as we would all like too. Who wouldn't want to forget Bush? Do you think we like to relive that nightmare?

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is why the correlation game is a stupid game. Terrorist attacks in Iraq the last year of data(2013) was a little over 600. Your chart shows almost 10k attacks at that time. SO we are supposed to beleive that the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq influenced the number of terror attacks, everywhere, by a huge margin. That seems...unlikely at best.
    That is interesting. Is it your opinion, then, that Islamist Fundamentalists and their potential supporters are uniquely not tied into global news networks, social media networks, and the like?


    That would sort of violate almost everything we know about this movement, which is almost defined in the modern era through media operations (which both bin Laden and Zawahiri said was the most important line of operation), but if you have anything to show supporting that, I'd be interested to see it.

    To put it another way, terror attacks in Iraq, 2010 to 2013 goes from about 120 to just over 600. In contrast, in Russia, attacks during that time have gone from a little over 500 to over 1400, or a much larger rise.
    take a look at the darker and lighter red - you will notice that they generally move in tandem. Yes. Perceived success of Islamist Fundamentalist terrorism in one portion of the globe inspires and increases adherence in other portions of the globe. That is part of why ISIL declaring a Caliphate is so huge - it has reached out to and inspired jihadists globally, allowing them to establish support networks that span continents and oceans and increase local levels of threat all over.


    Edit: sorry if that came off as excessively snarky - it wasn't intended to be abusive.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    That's what makes you part of the problem.

    What's that, exactly?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Seems like it would be more acurate to say it has skyrocketed under the republican House of Representatives. It was kinda flat the first couple years after Obama took office, then went way up once republicans took the house.
    I bought a new chainsaw right around that time. I'm attributing the increase to that event.

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    Re: Has terrorism flourished under Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Lets see here. The time farme where you say "has leveled off" seems to be from 2008-2011. I see it clearly still going up in 2008-2009is... But lets look more in depth shall we?
    2008: 4819 incidents GTD Search Results
    2009: 4761 incidents GTD Search Results
    2010: 4851 incidents GTD Search Results
    2011: 5091 incidents GTD Search Results
    --These are all attacks in the world--

    If "leveling off" means 58 less attacks but then immediately the next year jumps back up again, then congrats it "leveled off" but infact the attacks have been increasing.
    "raises eyebrow" Did you attend a public school where they did taught you neither how to read charts nor the definition of "exponential"?

    Yes. Attacks leveled off, and then indeed started to spike again.

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