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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It could be argued that radical islam is actually true islam, and that the moderated version we see is the innovation.
    Similarly the Lord's Resistance Army is true Christianity, and the moderated versions are new innovations.

    The biggest difference in Christianity and Islam is that Christianity has been moderated much more over the last couple of hundred years.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Interesting so since you see Islam as incompatible with a free society, do you think steps should be taken to curtail it?
    The question was RADICAL Islam, not Islam generally.

    What exactly do you mean by radical Islam?
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Starting about 500 years ago Christianity slowly stopped being a theocracy.
    Radical Islam is not so much a religion, as it is a political ideology with a religious component.
    It can evolve into an actual religion, but not until it drops the political aspects.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It could be argued that radical islam is actually true islam, and that the moderated version we see is the innovation.
    It could be argued that the Westboro BC, Jerry Falwell, the KKK, the gay-hanging Christians of Uganda and Timothy McVeigh represent the true Christianity too. It would be a crap argument and brain-dead logic, but no more so than your argument.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Are you trying to demonstrate my point?
    Just informing you of a detail you don't seem to have thought through. Trying to govern the reproductive habits of women on the scale of hundreds of millions isn't plausible. There's no way it can be achieved at a logistical level without creating a police state.

    Even if it was desirable or morally justified, it can't be done without resorting to various evils.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    2000 nigerians are believed killed today after a Boko Haram attack. Yesterday many died in Paris by local muslims. In france on new years day alone, nearly 1000 cars were burned by islamic "protestors". ISIS continues to flourish.



    World wide, the death toll continues to climb-whats clear is that the presence of islam often leads to violence, in fact many of the worlds current military conflicts involve islam in a significant way. We live in an international world, where relations between nations matter, and where many value a free society.

    Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?
    I see that Dardania is on the map.

    There is nothing even remotely similar to Islamic terrorism inside our country. Islamic fundamentalists are here, yes. There is tension between us and Serbs since 1999, yes. But no one is persecuting our minorities, the reason should be because there are Catholic as well as Orthodox Christian Albanian believers.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Are you aware that liberals support unborn whole-body mutilation? Both are bad, but one is certainly worse than the other.
    So if you had the power, you would happily swap abortion in this country with forced female genital mutilation?

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    There's no way it can be achieved at a logistical level without creating a police state.

    Even if it was desirable or morally justified, it can't be done without resorting to various evils.
    Well.....considering the poster you're discussing this with....it would be a necessary evil.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    2000 nigerians are believed killed today after a Boko Haram attack. Yesterday many died in Paris by local muslims. In france on new years day alone, nearly 1000 cars were burned by islamic "protestors". ISIS continues to flourish.



    World wide, the death toll continues to climb-whats clear is that the presence of islam often leads to violence, in fact many of the worlds current military conflicts involve islam in a significant way. We live in an international world, where relations between nations matter, and where many value a free society.

    Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?
    cyprus is an issue of greeks and turks ,not islamic
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Just informing you of a detail you don't seem to have thought through. Trying to govern the reproductive habits of women on the scale of hundreds of millions isn't plausible. There's no way it can be achieved at a logistical level without creating a police state.

    Even if it was desirable or morally justified, it can't be done without resorting to various evils.
    Yet somehow the state manages to "govern the reproductive habits of mothers of newborns", as you would say*, without creating a police state.

    *I wouldn't say it that way, since I speak English well and know that "prohibit the murder of young children" does not have the same meaning as "regulate the reproductive habits of the mothers of young children".

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So if you had the power, you would happily swap abortion in this country with forced female genital mutilation?
    No. Natural law doesn't work that way. One can't do evil to seek good.

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