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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Since the free society does not wants pedophiles then Christianity is incompatible with a free society also.
    I hesitate to ask but you'll have to cite for me where you find pedophilia as a accepted doctrine of the Christian religion.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I hesitate to ask but you'll have to cite for me where you find pedophilia as a accepted doctrine of the Christian religion.
    Only in practice, you know, where it really matters.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Arabs sure aren't white, I can tell you that. It is not difficult to see how Islamophobia and racism are almost inextricably linked, unless you are in denial.
    I couldn't disagree with this more. Judgments about radical Islam are being made by considering their acts (that's how we know they are radical). Not by their race. Secondly volitional acts are guided by the will, which in turn is guided by ones philosophical understanding of correct behavior. Again not race.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Only in practice, you know, where it really matters.
    That isn't Christianity. That is evil perpetrated by those who profess to be Christians. A distinction I'm not sure is appropriate to equally claim for radical vs moderate Islam. No pedophile declares that it is a correct part of their Christian religion to engage in pedophilia, while the radical Islamist does indeed attribute his acts to his submission to God.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    That isn't Christianity. That is evil perpetrated by those who profess to be Christians. A distinction I'm not sure is appropriate to equally claim for radical vs moderate Islam. No pedophile declares that it is a correct part of their Christian religion to engage in pedophilia, while the radical Islamist does indeed attribute his acts to his submission to God.
    Ah, the no-true-Christian fallacy.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Ah, the no-true-Christian fallacy.
    Not following you, here. The standard for a religious affiliation isn't behavior contrary to its professed values. It is behavior consistent with professed values. As I said NO CHRISTIAN PEDOPHILE claims their pedophilia is attributable to their Christianity. Therefore there is no fallacy.
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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Not following you, here. The standard for a religious affiliation isn't behavior contrary to its professed values. It is behavior consistent with professed values. As I said NO CHRISTIAN PEDOPHILE claims their pedophilia is attributable to their Christianity. Therefore there is no fallacy.
    But it doesn't stop them from being Christian, even if they don't claim their Christianity was responsible for their actions. There's an unfortunate tendency for some theists to claim that anyone who does things they don't like can't really belong to their religious social club because nobody who was a member of their religious social club would do those things. It is a recognized logical fallacy, typically called the "no true Scotsman fallacy", but Christians have used it so often, it's commonly renamed the "no true Christian fallacy" under those circumstances.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And thus the goalposts are moved. You changed it from "Radical Islam" to "Islam" in the span of one post.
    No I did not Kobie.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In the vast majority of Muslims that have NOT been radicalized.
    Kobie I posted a brief video in this thread that addresses this. Recommend you read the thread before commenting.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What, you want a zip code?

    Where Islam is most prevalent is also where other conditions that often lead to radicalization are prominent -- abject poverty and government repression, to name a couple.
    Sounds like where sharia law is implemented.

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