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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The question was RADICAL Islam, not Islam generally.

    What exactly do you mean by radical Islam?
    People who support violence for political means, those who advocate for strict islamic state including law, govt, etc.
    And to restate the obvious-they need not all be terrorists-though the most extreme certainly are.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Starting about 500 years ago Christianity slowly stopped being a theocracy.
    Radical Islam is not so much a religion, as it is a political ideology with a religious component.
    It can evolve into an actual religion, but not until it drops the political aspects.
    I generally agree with this, and while its true that islam is a younger religion (albeit with a very violent history), and while I generally dont hold other cultures accountable to western standards, I do indeed have concern when such an ideology comes into and then clashes with the west.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It could be argued that the Westboro BC, Jerry Falwell, the KKK, the gay-hanging Christians of Uganda and Timothy McVeigh represent the true Christianity too. It would be a crap argument and brain-dead logic, but no more so than your argument.
    Not really-historically or otherwise-but it would be a way for some to maintain PC liberal dogma in spite of the clear evidence in front you. You have to understand how silly some appear clinging to a clearly disproved theory that is right in front of them.

    To be clear, Im not defending Christian radicals, but rather pointing out the overwhelming issue-radical islam. Equivocation just doesent work here.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    cyprus is an issue of greeks and turks ,not islamic
    I know Turkey is trying to be as secular as possible, but radical islam is a factor there as well, especially recently. Its still tense on the island as I understand it. And my family is greek, so I know the story.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    No, from a literal translation. Radical islam adhere's to their own non-free set of rules engaged from Sharia and the Koran. That is the opposite of free.
    To me thats obvious, I agree.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Radical fundamentalism of any kind is not compatible with any free society. Religious tyranny is a sickness of the soul. Trying to curtail it as you say can only be done by marginalizing religious fundamentalism and treating it as a watch word, the same way we watch the KKK etc.
    Explain how to marginalize it? Its expanding rapidly right now-ISIS and Boko for example despite marginalization efforts.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    You site all these sources of how islam is holding back world peace today but systematically neglect to acknowledge how Catholicism and subsequent denominations were the reason for global instability for and have caused wars for ages. Since the 1000s Catholicism has caused violence and suffering. Now, for a fraction of that time, a different religion is causing similar problems and they are the most demonous people to have ever walked the earth. I certainly denounce the actions of these extreme Islamists, but to disregard the relevant past is unfortunate. Nobody ever questioned whether Catholicism was compatible with the world. If the world survived it since the 1000s, I think it can survive this as well.
    This is useless equivocation and frankly where I see libertarianism as being the most out of touch. I get it-you dont like religion-but religion is the state of most of the world and always has been. You are going to have to deal with that, and the tendencies of those groups.

    Saying sorry and withdrawing will not address this issue.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    How about radical pacifism?
    Radical pacifism may be the most dangerous of all. Might as well smear yourself in BBQ sauce and punch a bear.

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Explain how to marginalize it? Its expanding rapidly right now-ISIS and Boko for example despite marginalization efforts.
    By giving them no attention whatsoever. ISIS, will be disappearing soon.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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    Re: Is radical Islam compatible with a free society?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    More semantic Nonsense in the name of Islamist Apologism.

    Just like the Hebdo string where you were SO Happy you could object to someone saying/generalizing Muslims burned 40,000 cars when In fact/OF COURSE, it was probably just Many/Most, Not juvenile Strawman debate "all".


    In any case, it's ALL in the service of, Indeed Classic, and HOURLY, semantic nit-picking aPCologism.


    EDIT to the below Empty NON-answer.
    Minimalize/nit-pick/demand endless 'proof', in service of Leftism/Islamism.
    Its what they do.

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