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Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 43 46.2%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 37 39.8%

  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 12 12.9%
  • Total voters
    93
CMPancake said:
Marriage isn't this static, unchanging institution as you and other like minded individuals think it is. It has changed and adapted to culture countless times over across the world. It is ignorant to try and establish "ground rules" for something so nebulous and changing as marriage.
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This much is certain. Can you imagine....perhaps some of them have a pipedream to go back to marriage where the women was submissive to her husband and remembered her place.
 
JANFU said:
Yeah Gay Marriage and the next will be incest and pedophilia will be legal.
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Lions and tigers and bears. OH MY!

I knew there was a connection!

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year2late said:
This much is certain. Can you imagine....perhaps some of them have a pipedream to go back to marriage where the women was submissive to her husband and remembered her place.
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According to statistics half of them can't even stay married...some "sacred institution". Won't it be funny if more gays don't get divorced than straights.
 
Cephus said:
Because it hasn't happened. But for these people, it's just a hop, skip and a jump from "churches forced to perform gay marriages" to "anyone who claims any religious justification for any kind of discrimination."
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Fear mongering based upon old testament.
I always ask those types, please provide an example of where Jesus condemned homosexuality. He did not.
I am a Christian and (SSM) Same Sex Marriage is a basic human right.
 
Hmm' those poll results seem very unlikely to me. I wish it had been public. Can nonmembers vote?
 
Re: Should churches be forced to perform immoral homosexual mockeries of marriage?

BrewerBob said:
Hmm' those poll results seem very unlikely to me. I wish it had been public. Can nonmembers vote?
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It is public, but non-members can vote, and it is pretty obvious that someone has been taking advantage of this to screw with the poll.

Of the sixty-two votes cast so far in favor of allowing churches to be forced to perform immoral homosexual mockeries of weddings, only one is from an actual member, and he has stated that it was cast accidentally.

iacardsfan said:
For the record, I accidentally voted yes and I meant to vote no. The idea of a church being forced to do something like that is preposterous. It is a clear violation of the 1st amendment.
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All the others are bogus “guest” votes, cast while not logged in, and almost certainly all cast by the same person, for the purpose of messing up this poll.
 
US Conservative said:
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We hear much about gay marriage these days, both in the media and in politics. However, many religions (not just Christians) are expressly against gay marriage. There are exceptions, but in general that is the current situation.

Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

My thoughts TK.
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Churches....no. Businesses trying to masquerade as churches or businesses hiding behind religion and trying to use it as a shield.....absolutely not.
 
JANFU said:
Fear mongering based upon old testament.
I always ask those types, please provide an example of where Jesus condemned homosexuality. He did not.
I am a Christian and (SSM) Same Sex Marriage is a basic human right.
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I swear some folks turn Jesus and God into a micromanagers. :(
 
JANFU said:
Yeah Gay Marriage and the next will be incest and pedophilia will be legal.
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Once you go bear, you never go back.;)
 
It will require erasing the 1st ammendment so I doubt this will come to pass.
 
Churches should not. Forcing a church to would most likely be unconstitutional.
 
US Conservative said:
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We hear much about gay marriage these days, both in the media and in politics. However, many religions (not just Christians) are expressly against gay marriage. There are exceptions, but in general that is the current situation.

Should churches be forced to perform gay marriages?

My thoughts TK.
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Is there actually any push anywhere in the US for government to make churches perform marriages for gays?
 
WorldWatcher said:
No fine has been has been levied and no they were not ordered to supply wedding cakes if wedding cakes were not a product offered to the public.


Since no fine has been levied yet, the closing of the storefront bakery was not because of the fine. The closing of the storefront was because of lack of business after their practices came to light. They closed the storefront in September 2014, but the last I heard the hearing was scheduled for October 2014 (just a couple of months ago). I haven't seen anything resulting from that hearing or if a fine had even been imposed.




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There seem to have been a number of cases now that have threatened prison to levying fines. The $13.000 fine against the Giffords and their farmhouse venue was probably the stiffest, though the threat of prison seems heavy. In any event the idea of forcing people against their conscientious objection to cater a gay wedding seems rather over the top, when compared to letting people off defending society.
 
year2late said:
Is there actually any push anywhere in the US for government to make churches perform marriages for gays?
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No, there isn't. But that doesn't stop the hype machine from using this unsubstantiated fear to drum up support for fringe religious candidates and widening the partisan gap.

Bob Blaylock said:
It is public, but non-members can vote, and it is pretty obvious that someone has been taking advantage of this to screw with the poll.

Of the sixty-two votes cast so far in favor of allowing churches to be forced to perform immoral homosexual mockeries of weddings, only one is from an actual member, and he has stated that it was cast accidentally.

All the others are bogus “guest” votes, cast while not logged in, and almost certainly all cast by the same person, for the purpose of messing up this poll.
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Where do you find the poll details after you've already voted?
 
Paschendale said:
No, there isn't. But that doesn't stop the hype machine from using this unsubstantiated fear to drum up support for fringe religious candidates and widening the partisan gap.
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The same group that thinks "Happy Holidays" is a cry for the war on Christians.
 
US Conservative said:
What do you mean by "at least not now"?
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If and when the America is much less religious and the general public is in strong support of same sex marriage. This is the only possible situation I can think of where forcing the churches gains support. Otherwise, it is a blatant infringement on the religion. I am not saying that it will happen, just naming a possible scenario.
 
idea_steed said:
If and when the America is much less religious and the general public is in strong support of same sex marriage. This is the only possible situation I can think of where forcing the churches gains support. Otherwise, it is a blatant infringement on the religion. I am not saying that it will happen, just naming a possible scenario.
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Even if everyone else supported it, wouldn't it still be an infringement on religion and a violation of the separation of church and state?
 
US Conservative said:
Even if everyone else supported it, wouldn't it still be an infringement on religion and a violation of the separation of church and state?
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Yes it is. By using the word“force”, you have already admitted that it is an infringement.
But in that case the churches are under great pressure and may need to cave in, or they will lose more followers. Reform?
 
idea_steed said:
Yes it is. By using the word“force”, you have already admitted that it is an infringement.
But in that case the churches are under great pressure and may need to cave in, or they will lose more followers. Reform?
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Are you against the separation of church and state?
 
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